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jar
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Message 16 of 291 (219726)
06-26-2005 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by CK
06-26-2005 12:53 PM


Thanks for the radio link.
It was amazing. It made it quite clear that Mr. Green was completely set on imposing his dogma on everyone. His was perhaps one of the most intolerant discussions I've ever heard short of Fox News.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 17 of 291 (219727)
06-26-2005 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
06-26-2005 1:33 PM


Once again you misquote me.
String us up as Nero did and set a match to us to light your garden path.
You seem to have a habit of implying that I say things when I have not. You have done this in thread after thread.
Please point to where I said or implied anything like that.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 18 of 291 (219728)
06-26-2005 1:48 PM
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06-26-2005 1:44 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
You used the term "bigot" to describe the views of Steve Green, which I share, did you not? Where's the misquote? I merely went on to point out the logical outcome of your trend of thinking, whether you recognize it or not.

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CK
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Message 19 of 291 (219731)
06-26-2005 1:52 PM
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06-26-2005 1:48 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
How is the logical conclusion of "we don't agree with your views on homosexuals and therefore we don't want to business with you" people hanging you and burning down your house?
I fail to see any "logic" in such an assumption.

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Message 20 of 291 (219732)
06-26-2005 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
06-26-2005 1:48 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
You used the term "bigot" to describe the views of Steve Green, which I share, did you not? Where's the misquote? I merely went on to point out the logical outcome of your trend of thinking, whether you recognize it or not.
Did anyone talk about stringing up or burning bigots? Not that I noticed. It is just not the kind of thing that we are inclinded to support or cozy up to.
You portray an excellent example of the kind of thing that my Christian friends are distrubed by. It is necessary to occasionally remind them that most of us can distinguish between those and others who pretend to be Christian.

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crashfrog
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Message 21 of 291 (219733)
06-26-2005 1:55 PM
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06-26-2005 1:31 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
For "persecuting" people by calling sin sin.
It's not so much the talking about sin that bothers us; it's the tying gay people to fences and beating them to death, then desecrating their funerals; it's the shooting abortion doctors with high-powered rifles and setting up kill-list webpages for people to keep track; it's the bombing government buildings; it's the stockpiling of weapons and suicide pacts that kill hundreds of children.
It's the burning books and interfering with libraries. It's the funding of political corruption and blackmaining public officials to prosecute personal vendettas.
It's mostly that stuff. Yeah, I know. Maybe we're a bit hypersenstive.
It is this sector alone that is now the fair target of discrimination and intolerance.
Oh, shit! People are excercizing their freedom to not associate with you! You might have to - gasp - bank at another institution!
God, your lives are hell. How do you stand it?

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Message 22 of 291 (219734)
06-26-2005 1:56 PM
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06-26-2005 1:52 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
Take it as a prophecy if it doesn't make sense to you. It's coming. You'll recognize it when it comes. The terms "bigots" and "intolerant" are the wedge. The UK bank is just another of the growing expressions of it. It's coming.

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Message 23 of 291 (219735)
06-26-2005 1:58 PM
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06-26-2005 1:55 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
The ridiculous lying hyperbole and false accusations of such a post as yours are all part of what I'm talking about.

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crashfrog
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Message 24 of 291 (219736)
06-26-2005 2:00 PM
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06-26-2005 1:58 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
The ridiculous lying hyperbole and false accusations of such a post as yours are all part of what I'm talking about.
Lying hyperbole? You may have noticed that I supported each of those assertions with links.
Something that, apparently, you're never required to do.

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jar
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Message 25 of 291 (219737)
06-26-2005 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
06-26-2005 1:48 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
Sorry, but again, you are continuing to malign me.
Yes, Mr. Green's behavior can only be described as bigotry.
However, what you then did, to imply that the "logical outcome of your trend of thinking" is to burn individuals is absurd. There are many examples where Bigotry has been opposed through other means. I sat at the counters opposing your type of bigotry in Greensboro, North Carolina and was fired for my opposition to such bigotry. It was not the Bigots who were attacked, but those of us opposing it.
There are several far more likely outcomes. The first and prefered is education. Hopefully, those of who hold views similar to Mr. Green can be educated to realize that those ideas are harmful to themselves as well as the target.
The second is legislative. People are free to continue holding such views but will be prevented from acting on them. Believe what you want but stop trying to impose your wrong beliefs on the rest of us.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Faith 
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Message 26 of 291 (219738)
06-26-2005 2:04 PM
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06-26-2005 2:01 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
Believe what you want but stop trying to impose your wrong beliefs on the rest of us.
Now I'm IMPOSING MY BELIEFS on you? Wow.

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Message 27 of 291 (219739)
06-26-2005 2:07 PM
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06-26-2005 2:01 PM


Re: Once again you misquote me.
And now you are accusing me of racism too? MY kind of bigotry? Who is "maligning" whom here?

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Message 28 of 291 (219740)
06-26-2005 2:08 PM
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06-26-2005 2:00 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
You are tarring ordinary Bible-believers with fringe people.

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 291 (219742)
06-26-2005 2:11 PM
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06-26-2005 2:08 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
You are tarring ordinary Bible-believers with fringe people.
These are ordinary Bible-believers who followed, in your words, "the logical outcome of your trend of thinking, whether you recognize it or not."

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Message 30 of 291 (219745)
06-26-2005 2:23 PM
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06-26-2005 2:11 PM


Re: Persecute those who persecute
Not the Branch Davidians, not the murderers of abortionists, not the killers of Matthew Shepard. All misrepresentations. I couldn't get into one site and I didn't check the last one or two.

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