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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Protection of course, since we're all sinners, but government or any kind of official accommodation to such behavior calls down judgment on the society. ========= ...according to you, the final arbiter of all things correct about Christianity. Want a list of those who agree with me? Start with Christian Voice. That's the point they are making behind their actions that the Co-op bank doesn't like.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Oh, they could put you up on a pedestal, but then you would have never been allowed on the computer in the first place, let alone taken seriously as if you had could possibly have any kind of worthwhile opinion at all, because you're only a girl. Oh, and Entomologista is a woman, too.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Want a list of those who agree with me? Start with Christian Voice. And then add all those people I listed before. Abortion snipers. Branch Davidians. Timothy McVeigh. The corruption machine of DeLay and Abrahmoff. All absolutely confident in their course of action and that they were following the will of God to the letter. You're in some pretty good company, aren't you?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Pedestals not required, just basic respect. Not much of that around here. Didn't even see a post by Entomologista, but that's sweet too, two females and half a dozen guys all against me.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I guess there's no talking to someone who won't bother to make basic disctinctions. Smear away, there's no stopping you.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Respect? You actually have the enormous brass balls to demand respect from me? You called me the stupidest person on this board, Faith, and you have never apologized or even pretended to have any remorse about that completely personal, ad hominem attack. Who do you think you are, talking to me about wanting to be treated with respect? What makes you think you deserve it or have earned it from me, even though I have said nothing disrespectful to you in this thread?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I guess there's no talking to someone who won't bother to make basic disctinctions. Oh, I make the basic distinction, all right. They put their beliefs into action, and you just talk.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Personally I am glad that the Government and the law does not operate on the whims, prejudices and biggotry of the people. Exactly. That is exactly how the voice of the people gets trampled and elitist fascistic tyranny takes over. All that Western history come to naught. Pile up the evil labels against the people, trash them, smear them, deprive them of a voice-- if you can't get them deprogrammed in a good leftie consciousness-raising program of course -- and bye bye democracy, and you guys just don't get it, do you?
The principle of a just law is that all are equal in the sight of the law. Except the majority of the people according to you.
Not the one with the loudest voice or the biggest bank balance or the best looking or who owns the media or is friends with the friend of the local Big Cheese. The law is blind, meaning blind to money, influence, colour, sexual preference and social standing. As to your accusation that profits cannot be jeopardized by principles, how about profits generated by principles? Co-op investors seem to agree. You are the one who gave that motive. I'm with Christian Voice in their assessment of the principles of the Co-op. All the rest is fine in the abstract.
Since when did God (your capital letters) mean the God of Christian Voice over and above the God of the majority of people that bank with the co-op or live in the UK? Up to about forty, forty-five years ago I think -- or maybe only a couple of decades? For a few hundred years back before that.
Since when did the morality of Christian Voice mean more than the morality of a long established (150+ years) bank and the majority of it's customers? The bank may be long-established but I'm sure you'd be hard-pressed to show that their current morality is long-established.
Do not mention blindly God and morality without stating specifically YOUR God and YOUR morality, otherwise you are the one being prejudiced and biased. My God is the FORMER God of Western Civilization, the FORMER God of Great Britain for a millennium or so, the FORMER God of the United States from its settling to some forty years ago or so. The God who made the West great. There is no other, and the UK once knew it, America once knew it. This message has been edited by Faith, 06-26-2005 11:18 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Pedestals not required, just basic respect. Why don't you try having some, first.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I apologize to you for calling you stupid. I was severely provoked at the time and you were part of the provocation.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, you're not a Christian but a Deist like Jefferson, Wahington, Franklin, Paine, etc? Can we assume that you follow the Jefferson Bible?
Personally I am glad that the Government and the law does not operate on the whims, prejudices and biggotry of the people. quote: Um, WTF? We get tyrrany when the law is impartial? So, you think that the blindfold on that statue of justice should be taken off, eh? Justice should be able to see if that person "looks right"?
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bobbins Member (Idle past 3639 days) Posts: 122 From: Manchester, England Joined: |
The legalisation of homosexuality happened in 1967 when a majority of the British people thought homosexuality was wrong. The public support was not for homosexuality to be legalised but that the current government suppression was unjustified and an expensive waste of time. The survey you refer to is not one I was aware of but if you consider that at least half those questioned are done so face to face it is easy to see how most people would like to be seen as open-minded. I would also like to see the figures for the other 53%, did they all say homosexuality was right? My experience whilst not as scientific and widespread would lead me to believe that many people protest their open-mindedness in public yet privately cling to older beliefs about homosexuality. I would equate this with the attitude towards ethnic minorities and immigrants. The public vote for nationalistic parties is minor yet privately people express beliefs not dissimilar and many national newspapers reflect this belief.
As to policies being driven by the people, capital punishment has consistently been approved by the majority of people in the UK since it's abolition yet successive Parliaments have voted any reintroduction out.(76% pro death penalty in 1995 when the last reintroduction bill was voted down). I am aware that this is a vague and probably not very constructive reply but I can only call as I see from day to day in Manchester. Apophenia:seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data. Pareidolia:vague or random stimulus being perceived (mistakenly) as recognisable. Ramsey Theoryatterns may exist. Whoops!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Don't you just get TIRED of the way you twist my meanings to misrepresent me when it would be so easy just to get the point and move on? I know I do.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
My experience whilst not as scientific and widespread would lead me to believe that many people protest their open-mindedness in public yet privately cling to older beliefs about homosexuality. In other words, they advocate equality for homosexuals but do not want to partake in homosexual acts themselves. Well, duh. That's what it means to be a heterosexual who supports gay rights.
I am aware that this is a vague and probably not very constructive reply but I can only call as I see from day to day in Manchester. Here's a better idea - call it from the evidence.
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nator Member (Idle past 2195 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
When you say this:
quote: ...but then completely rationalize and make excuses for your behavior by saying:
quote: you nullify the apology. So, does this mean that when you were provoking me by calling me the stupidest person on this board, it would have been OK for me to call you an ignorant moron? Would that have been acceptable adult behavior in your eyes, no matter what the provocation?
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