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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
"The whole family just panicked on me. I worked pretty quick," he said. "I strangled Mrs. Otero. She passed out. I thought she was dead. I strangled Josephine. She passed out. I thought she was dead. Then I went over and put a bag on Junior's head." He later said about Mrs. Otero: "I went back and strangled her again." When questioned by the judge about the motivation for the Otero slayings, Rader said: "That was part of what you call my fantasy." Pressed further, Rader said, "Sexual fantasy, sir." Rader has not been accused of sexually assaulting his victims, but he admitted masturbating over some of them. ...He said he told Nancy Fox he had "sexual problems," forced her to strip, then handcuffed her and strangled her with a belt. After she was dead, he said, he removed the handcuffs from her body and masturbated over her. BTK Killer
"My experience with pornography ... is once you become addicted to it, (and I look at this as a kind of addiction like other kinds of addiction), I would keep looking for more potent, more explicit, more graphic kinds of material. Like an addiction, you keep craving something that is harder, something which gives you a greater sense of excitement. Until you reach a point where the pornography only goes so far, you reach that jumping off point where you begin to wonder if maybe actually doing it would give you that which is beyond just reading or looking at it." Ted Bundy What do we need to protect our kids from? This message has been edited by Tal, 06-27-2005 04:01 PM "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
From simple-minded ideologues who draw unsubstantiated connections in order to legislate an enforced code of morality? It is substantiated. "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
If negative effects of pornography made by adults for adults could be demonstrated, then it would be a different story. How is Ted Bundy's own statement not a demonstration of the negative effects of pornography made by adults for adults?
"My experience with pornography ... is once you become addicted to it, (and I look at this as a kind of addiction like other kinds of addiction), I would keep looking for more potent, more explicit, more graphic kinds of material. Like an addiction, you keep craving something that is harder, something which gives you a greater sense of excitement. Until you reach a point where the pornography only goes so far, you reach that jumping off point where you begin to wonder if maybe actually doing it would give you that which is beyond just reading or looking at it." Ted Bundy "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Ted Bundy was a sociopathic sexually deviant serial killer. Yes, and according to him, he got that way through porn.
hat statement was made in a context. A context where Ted was continuing to be manipulative and insincere trying to at least delay the death penalty. Wrong.
Ted Bundy acknowledged that he deserved the death penalty, even though there were anti-death penalty demonstrators outside his prison cell up until the moment of his execution. "I deserve the most extreme punishment society has," he said. "But I don't want to die, I kid you not." Given what Ann Rule and Stephen Michaud have researched about Ted's past his statement about pornography was an attempt at shifting responsibility from himself on to others. No, he was taking responsibility for his actions and telling people how he go to the place in his life where he wanted to kill people to satisfy his sexual urges (BTK). I'm sure we'll be hearing about BTK's pornographic addiction soon. "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
One thing Americans seem to do is jump to blame the industry. If you're fat, it must be the fast food industry's fault. Industries evolve for one reason and one reason only: demand. If we wake up tomorrow and everyone hates porn and has sex through a hole in the bed sheet, there would be a lot of porn execs looking for jobs (or releasing porn of bed sheet sex). One issue I'm thinking of while following the thread is "what came first?" Like any other business, to a certain extent the consumer has to drive the progression of the merchandise. New and increasingly more "interesting" pornography gets developed because the consumer base is showing that they get bored and move on. The case might be made that it's the pornographer's fault or the consumer's fault, depending on your position about porn in general. Hard to say really. The increased exposure and availability via internet must increase the need for new avenues of stimulation, but if there weren't enough eyeballs longing for the content it would not be produced -- it's a business. If I produced some male-dominant woman-degrading content and lost half my members, you can bet I would be rethinking that angle. My question is, can we really blame the industry? No. A person is still responsible for their actions whether they kill someone, use pornography, or stuff 2 Bigmacs per day down their pie-holes. "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
There isn't the slightest pornographic image in the Bible. It describes many sexual situations but there is nothing pornographic -- erotically stimulating -- about any of them. I found many of the sexual situations in the Bible to be erotically stimulating in my youth.
Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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Tal Member (Idle past 5704 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
This post is OT. Do not respond.
I find my relationship with my wife stimulating enough. This message has been edited by AdminJar, 06-29-2005 02:39 PM "Some say freedom is free...but I beg to disagree. Some say freedom is won, through the barrel of a gun..." -Army Cadence "A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future."- General George Patton Jr No webpage found at provided URL: www.1st-vets.us
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