Howard Dean was right!

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The pivotal role of the Republican party in this achievement - and the racist and sexist past of the Democratic party - are authoritatively presented in this eye-opening book.

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You don't find it inflammatory to refer to Democrats as "racist and sexist"?Absolutely ridiculous. When are you going to stop the game-playing, Monk? I knew that this is exactly what would happen - I'd present comments from Republicans that were absolutely beyond the pale, and you'd play them off like they were no big deal. But god forbit that Howard Dean, who holds no elected office, makes no laws, nor sets any public policy, makes a joke about how there are no black Congressmen - which turns out to be an absolutely true statement - and holy shit! It's a major deal! It's not to be contenanced! The Democrats are the party of extremists!Get serious, Monk. If you weren't equipped to address examples of Republican idiocity, then why did you ask for them?This message has been edited by crashfrog, 06-18-2005 04:12 PM

At any rate, there's no need for us to be at loggerheads. If you accept the example of Santorum, then you've already agreed that I've held up my end of the bargain.Now it's your turn to do the same. Are you going to support your assertion, now?

Hey, leave me out of this. He didn't consult me, though if he did I'd end up agreeing. You are obviously avoiding debate using any trick in the book.I also find using "we" a weakness, but in this case it is pretty much accurate. Several people have tried to communicate with you, you do not answer but then require more answers from "us". There is a point when one realizes no answers from your side will be forthcoming no matter how much one gives in.

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"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Some more unhinged Republicans:

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White House confidante Grover Norquist, known for his blistering attacks on U.S. taxes, likened the estate tax to the "morality of the Holocaust" in October 2003.

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"The argument that some who play to the politics of hate and envy and class division will say is, 'Well, that's only 2 percent -- or, as people get richer, 5 percent, in the near future -- of Americans likely to have to pay [the estate tax]," he told NPR. "I mean, that's the morality of the Holocaust: 'Oh, it's only a small percentage. It's not you; it's somebody else.'"

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After being criticized for his remarks, Norquist expanded them in 2004 to include Democrats.

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"The Nazis were for gun control, the Nazis were for high marginal tax rates.... Do you want to talk about who's closer politically to national socialism, the Right or the Left?" he told the Jewish newspaper The Forward. He also "told the Forward that he would not hesitate to use Holocaust comparisons in the future."

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In response to a ruling on abortion last September, Congressman Steve King said following law on reproductive rights equivalent to a Nazi guard saying he was following orders.

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"That, Mr. Speaker, is a `modern-day' equivalent of the Nazi prison guard saying 'I was just following orders,'" he said on the House floor Sept. 8, 2004. "It was all legal in Nazi Germany at the time."

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Sen. James Inhofe said Oct. 11, 2004 that Kyoto "would deal a powerful blow on the whole humanity similar to the one humanity experienced when Nazism and communism flourished."

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The Oklahoma Republican added, "The world has certainly turned on its head that we Americans must look to Russians for speaking out strongly against irrational authoritarian ideologies."

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Hah! Racist to boot.

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Sen. Tom Cole (R-OK) dragged out Hitler to hit Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

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"Cole Claims a Vote Against Bush Is a Vote For Hitler." KTOK radio in Oklahoma blared last year.

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"Republican Congressman Tom Cole claims a vote against the `re-election' of President Bush is like supporting Adolph Hitler during World War Two," the station reported. "It's what he said recently before a meeting of Canadian County Republicans."

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Cole later codified his statement, saying through a spokesperson: "What do you think Hitler would have thought if Roosevelt would've lost the election in 1944?"

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Former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-TX) compared a Democratic tax plan to Nazi law in 2002.

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"Now, forgive me, but that is right out of Nazi Germany," Gramm said. "I don't understand ... why all of a sudden we are passing laws that sound as if they are right out of Nazi Germany."

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All from Raw Story.

Hi Holmes:Hey, here’s some data to back up your hypothesis. My brother, a very staunch Republicanand I mean he bleeds Regan blood (he’s about as Republican as one can be)almost made me faint yesterday during a phone conversation. I call him once or twice a week to point out the latest pile of crap spewed out by the neocons and we usually get into a funbut heatedargument. Last night, he stunned me by stating that he (my brotherMr. Republican) is getting sick and tired of the nonsense HIS party is spewing! That he’s fed up with them! Holy Crap! Trust me, I cannot over emphasize the enormity of this admissionthat he’s disgusted with his very own Republican Party. And he hates Dean, so this is not a result of Dean’s message getting through, but rather an example of what you say may lead to a Democratic victory during the next election. Namely, that the Republican Party itself is doing a fine job of splitting their own vote. You’re brilliant.

Heheheh... excellent.

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"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Man, what's with you Republicans? Your guys just can't keep from shooting their mouths off. From the last couple of days:

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Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who joined Pryce at the press conference, told Cybercast News Service that it "is just inconceivable and truly incorrigible that in the midst of the war, that the Democratic leaders would be conducting guerrilla warfare on American troops.

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That's a pretty bold allegation. Does Joe Wilson have some evidence that Democrats are actually firing on American troops?Oh, no, wait, that's our military contractors. My bad. Moving on:

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In a speech in Manhattan last night, Rove slandered Democrats for their response to 9/11. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war," Rove said. "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

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Does Rove have any evidence that Liberals offered therapy to to al-Qaeda? Anything? No?That guy makes over $150,000 of my money every year, despite never being elected by the American people, and I want him out.Ah, and our good friend (if you've got the cash) Tom DeLay pipes up with his expert analysis of the situation in Iraq:

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"You know, if Houston, Texas, was held to the same standard as Iraq is held to, nobody'd go to Houston, because all this reporting coming out of the local press in Houston [would be about] violence, murders, robberies, deaths on the highways," DeLay says in an interview reported in today's Houston Chronicle. It's the media's fault, of course. People should just go to Iraq, DeLay says, and they'd see what's really happening there.

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Just like Texas, huh? Hey, Zephyr, you were in Iraq, right? Is it just like Texas?Oh, and of course, when Tom Delay says "people should just go to Iraq", what he means is "people should go to Iraq unless they're Republicans or their children, in which case they should stay home and root for a war they're too chickenshit to enlist for."Oh, here we go. Here's Rep John Hostletter on the scandal of religious intolerance brewing in the Air Force Academy:

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During a debate on the House floor over a measure that would have put the House on record as opposed to "coercive and abusive religious proselytizing" at the U.S. Air Force Academy, Hostettler said -- only he couldn't have said it, right? -- that "Democrats can't help themselves when it comes to denigrating and demonizing Christians."

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Ah, classic "blame the victim" technique.Hey - wasn't I debating this with somebody? Wasn't I having a conversation with somebody who was so sure that Republicans would never, ever sink to the same level of rhetoric? Assertion supported. Now it's your turn, Monk. Time for you to hold up your end of the discussion. If you'll recall, I posed this question: Well? Have we? Where's that "liberal media" and their outrage about Rove's comment, at least? How come I had to delve through liberal blogs to find this stuff? How come it wasn't front-page news like Durbin's and Dean's comments have been?

It’s right here. Top Democratic politicians are calling for Rove’s resignation Message 108

Like I asked: where's the liberal media and their outrage? For that matter where's the conservative media and their outrage?

Ok, what I'm about to say might... will be viewed as racist and bigoted in nature.Minority groups (I'm not just talking about blacks, or Afro-Americans to be politically correct) tend to be conservative in general for 2 particular reasons: they tend to be much more religious and they tend to be less educated.Even the infamous... loud and obnoxious Jesse Jackson, a self-proclaimed liberal, is too conservative for my taste.There may be more self-proclaimed democrats in the black community, but these people seem to always lean toward conservative policies when it comes to social issues.Ok, you can flame on me now.