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Faith 
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Message 76 of 306 (221182)
07-01-2005 3:37 PM
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07-01-2005 3:36 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
When you get serious I'll be happy to answer your questions.

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Message 77 of 306 (221184)
07-01-2005 3:41 PM
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07-01-2005 3:37 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
I am always serious - the logical outcome of your answer that perfect people can sleep with family members and anyone else that crosses their path surely means that people in heaven can sleep with family members.
I'm sorry that you don't think I'm serious but those seem to be logical next steps in regards to your current story about 900 old perfect people.

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Faith 
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Message 78 of 306 (221185)
07-01-2005 3:46 PM
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07-01-2005 3:41 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
Genetic perfection and the perfection of life in heaven are not the same thing, and as usual you are refusing to consider the difference between sinful and lawful sex.

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CK
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Message 79 of 306 (221187)
07-01-2005 3:48 PM
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07-01-2005 3:46 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
how can it be "as usual" - we have exchanged about 4 posts about the matter. What a strange comment to make!
People don't have sex in heaven? Can you point me towards the chapter in the bible that states this? I've had a quick look and can't find it.
I can see that this is conversation is making you angry and upset - so we will speak of it no more.
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robinrohan
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Message 80 of 306 (221188)
07-01-2005 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Faith
07-01-2005 3:36 PM


The Clowns of Science
Yes.And yes yes yes yes yes and yup yup yup
Whereas scientific method in other fields--well, that's different.
They are not such clowns in other areas.
It's only in this field of biology that you find the clowns, for some reason.
Or perhaps creationists don't accept, say, atomic theory either.

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Chiroptera
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Message 81 of 306 (221189)
07-01-2005 3:54 PM
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07-01-2005 3:48 PM


Can dead people marry?
Well, according to Matt. 22:30, Jesus said:
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
And if lawful sex requires marriage, then that is that.

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CK
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Message 82 of 306 (221190)
07-01-2005 4:02 PM
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07-01-2005 3:54 PM


Re: Can dead people marry?
many thanks ...but if marriage doesn't exist..... How can it unlawful to break a law that doesn't exist?
So it could be that everyone is getting it on with everyone or nobody is getting it on with no-one.
I guess we will never know....

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Message 83 of 306 (221192)
07-01-2005 4:07 PM
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07-01-2005 4:02 PM


Hey, God, what's with the attitude?
Don't ask me. I don't understand the first thing about all of this sin and laws and rules and stuff. Evidently God likes some stuff and hates other stuff, and when you get to heaven you're going to follow his rules, and you're gonna like it.

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robinrohan
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Message 84 of 306 (221193)
07-01-2005 4:13 PM
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07-01-2005 4:07 PM


Re: Hey, God, what's with the attitude?
and when you get to heaven you're going to follow his rules, and you're gonna like it.
You don't really think Charles has a chance at heaven, do you?
Not by a considerable sight.

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Faith 
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Message 85 of 306 (221194)
07-01-2005 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by CK
07-01-2005 3:48 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
quote:
People don't have sex in heaven? Can you point me towards the chapter in the bible that states this? I've had a quick look and can't find it.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
quote:
I can see that this is conversation is making you angry and upset - so we will speak of it no more.
Perhaps you speak from ignorance, but it often sounds like something else, and I never know if I should just ignore you or take you as meaning what you say.
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CK
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Message 86 of 306 (221196)
07-01-2005 4:18 PM
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07-01-2005 4:16 PM


Re: Who did Cain marry?
deleted by author - why bother?
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Faith 
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Message 87 of 306 (221197)
07-01-2005 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by robinrohan
07-01-2005 3:53 PM


Re: The Clowns of Science
Whereas scientific method in other fields--well, that's different.
They are not such clowns in other areas.
It's only in this field of biology that you find the clowns, for some reason.
I don't see clowns, I see people laboring under a theory that can't be proved or disproved, and doing good science that gets swallowed up in the theory.
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robinrohan
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Message 88 of 306 (221201)
07-01-2005 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
07-01-2005 4:19 PM


Re: The Clowns of Science
I see people laboring under a theory that can't be proved or disproved, and doing good science that gets swallowed up in the theory.
And who is to blame for this state of affairs?
Is TOE really a political movement, an anti-religious movement?
Because science thrives on competition between competing theories. That's how it works. The truth will come out in the competition.
Scientists are as biased as everybody else, but the method is not biased. But you are suggesting that there is a bias here--otherwise, TOE would have been thrown out long ago.

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Faith 
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Message 89 of 306 (221207)
07-01-2005 4:49 PM
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07-01-2005 4:28 PM


Re: The Clowns of Science
I see people laboring under a theory that can't be proved or disproved, and doing good science that gets swallowed up in the theory.
And who is to blame for this state of affairs?
Is TOE really a political movement, an anti-religious movement?
I think that it simply took hold for whatever reason and now can't be challenged.
Because science thrives on competition between competing theories. That's how it works. The truth will come out in the competition.
If the ToE were testable and falsifiable that could be counted on, but it isn't. One can endlessly interpret data into it because there's nothing that can falsify the interpretation. Creationists have alternative interpretations but they can't be proved either, so they just don't get taken seriously.
Scientists are as biased as everybody else, but the method is not biased. But you are suggesting that there is a bias here--otherwise, TOE would have been thrown out long ago.
The ToE is not subject to scientific method. Most of the actual science that goes on around it is, but the ToE isn't.

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robinrohan
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Message 90 of 306 (221209)
07-01-2005 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
07-01-2005 4:49 PM


Re: The Clowns of Science
The ToE is not subject to scientific method
You've said this frequently, and I'm not sure how to respond to it. It's off topic here, but it might make a good new topic.
Why don't you introduce it as a new topic?
If you don't want to, I can. I want to see what somebody will reply who knows what they are talking about, since I am not educated in science.

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