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coffee_addict
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Message 16 of 45 (222374)
07-07-2005 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Phat
07-07-2005 12:11 PM


Re: The list is a greater threat than the terrorists.
Dude, you are very disturbed.

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Chiroptera
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Message 17 of 45 (222409)
07-07-2005 5:58 PM


I've just read their blurb on Keynes' book and found this gem:
FDR adopted the idea as U.S. policy, and the U.S. government now has a $2.6-trillion annual budget and an $8-trillion dollar debt.
Strange that they don't mention that the last president to balance the federal budget was that "liberal" Democrat Bill Clinton, while the current record deficits are being racked up by our most Keynesian president in history, GWB (with help from a Congress dominated by his party).

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jar
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Message 18 of 45 (222420)
07-07-2005 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Chiroptera
07-07-2005 5:58 PM


Don't forget RR, who damn near spent us into bankruptcy.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 19 of 45 (222425)
07-07-2005 6:52 PM
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07-07-2005 11:50 AM


Re: The list is a greater threat than the terrorists.
(Or perhaps the egyptian book of the dead)
I was lucky enough when growing up that one of the books we had around the house was a copy of the Book of the Dead. I remember many happy hours pouring through it and the wonderful converstaions with mom and dad and my younger brother at dinner about the fantastic things to be found in it. If I had missed that a great and wonderful part of my life would be missing and I strongly urge anyone who has not read it to do so.
I personally disagree with some of the liberal books that elementary schoolkids are allowed to read, like A Way Of Love, A Way Of Life: A Young Person's Introduction To What It Means To Be Gay .
Why would you disagree with a child being allowed to read any book? Isn't that the best way to start a discussion on the subject?
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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Morte
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Message 20 of 45 (222508)
07-08-2005 1:36 AM
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07-07-2005 11:50 AM


Clarification request
You say:
I personally disagree with some of the liberal books that elementary schoolkids are allowed to read, like A Way Of Love, A Way Of Life: A Young Person's Introduction To What It Means To Be Gay. {emphasis added}
...but then you say:
Not because i am anti gay so much as because I believe that the state has no right to indoctorinate children on what constitutes "normal' behavior. {emphasis added}
Could you please clarify? I'm not quite sure whether you're objecting to students being allowed to read the book or being forced to read the book as a mandatory assignment. I would certainly consider the two to be completely different issues.
If it's the latter, could you also please link to the specific instance you're talking about where elementary schoolchildren had to read the book? (I may or may not feel the same way in either case depending on further details.)

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lfen
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Message 21 of 45 (222511)
07-08-2005 2:48 AM
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07-07-2005 9:49 AM


Re: The list is a greater threat than the terrorists.
But the idea that there are dangerous books has been embraced by the Catholic Church, Adolf Hitler, and Soviet Russia to name three. Those three institutions perceived perhaps with some good reasons that some books were a threat to their functioning.
lfen

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Message 22 of 45 (222533)
07-08-2005 7:29 AM
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07-07-2005 11:33 AM


quote:
I'm not sure many people actually read Mein Kampf
I'm pretty sure that the NeoCons have read it.
At least, they sure sound like they've read it.

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Chiroptera
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Message 23 of 45 (222541)
07-08-2005 8:38 AM
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07-08-2005 7:29 AM


Could be a case of kindred minds thinking alike.

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Brad McFall
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Message 24 of 45 (222549)
07-08-2005 9:36 AM
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07-07-2005 12:41 AM


Das Kapital was useless for me in trying to apply the industrial revolution power to supramolecular chemistry. My guess is that Faraday was not realized for an overfeeling on Darwin. I dont know but post-Communist Marxists couldnt change the tune to have a higher faculty offer what the internet does the lower in position to invert the conditions extant and rights in disupte.

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Alexander
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Message 25 of 45 (222553)
07-08-2005 10:07 AM


How the hell did they miss the Bible?! It's a stretch to say Kapital or the Manifesto "caused" communism or likewise for Mein Kampf and the holocaust, but it's no more of a stretch to link the Bible to the inquisition or the German or American witch hunts.
Someone explain to me why Ralph Naders book was on this list? Monk? Tal? Anyone? I can't think of any reason, valid or silly, that makes sense.

'Most temperate in the pleasures of the body, his passion was for glory only, and in that he was insatiable.'

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Brad McFall
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Message 26 of 45 (222555)
07-08-2005 10:18 AM
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07-08-2005 10:07 AM


Alex, the university's division into "chairs", "specialists" or "departments" was orginally 10 from degrees across the astrological sky but apparently they have failed to found a findable faculty for the difference of the Biblical and the philosophical theologian. Theology indeed it was(to speak like a little green Yooda). Entrupensurship does not substitute in during transit.

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Parasomnium
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Message 27 of 45 (222556)
07-08-2005 10:24 AM
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07-08-2005 10:07 AM


Pssst... take a look at the topic title.
Alexander writes:
How the hell did they miss the Bible?!
Perhaps it's because the Bible was written/compiled at a time when counting centuries was still a bit of a novelty?

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. - Richard Dawkins

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Alexander
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Message 28 of 45 (222559)
07-08-2005 10:55 AM
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07-08-2005 10:24 AM


Re: Pssst... take a look at the topic title.
Haha ok I'm stupid. The question about Nader's book still stands.

'Most temperate in the pleasures of the body, his passion was for glory only, and in that he was insatiable.'

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Parasomnium
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Message 29 of 45 (222563)
07-08-2005 11:13 AM
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07-08-2005 10:55 AM


Re: Pssst... take a look at the topic title.
Alexander writes:
The question about Nader's book still stands.
I must pass on that one, it's something I know nothing about.

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robinrohan
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Message 30 of 45 (222581)
07-08-2005 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by nator
07-08-2005 7:29 AM


Mein Kampf
I read it recently. It's not as boring as its reputation suggests. Some of what is said in that book took my breath away. The hatred steams out from just about every page. That's what makes it interesting. Evil is very interesting, for some reason.

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