Terrorism in London

Bus in Tavistock Square (believed sucide bomber)
Underground train near Edgware Road
Underground train near Russel Square
Underground train near King's Cross
Underground train near Moorgate
Underground train near Liverpool Street
Underground train near Aldgate EastCurrent estimates (from AP) are around 40 dead, "scores" injured: Since a lot of the casualties are in the underground system, it may be hours before they reach some of them.Both me and Mrs. Parrot used to work in Central London, but I've just finished phoning around and none of our friends/workmates have been caught up in it. Which you may not care about, but I'm so damn relieved I'm going to tell you anyway.

From the BBC:In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."
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AbE: Except you didn't target the British Zionist Crusader Government did you, you murdering fucks. You blew up a load of innocent civilians instead.(no appologies for the languange, I'm afraid)This message has been edited by Dead Parrot, 07-08-2005 02:21 AM

Sorry for taking a while to reply... Having lived in Luton for several years, I appreciate that the idea of deploying tactical nuclear weapons to the place has a certain appeal, and would sort out the problem of parking at the airport. Bradford, on the other hand, is actually quite nice and it would be a shame to turn it into a big crater. We'd better just hope they're not from London, since we would then either have to work out how to detonate a device so that it takes out, say, the borough of Hammersmith without futher disrupting the tube services.A second option, of course, is that - like the 9/11 attackers - they came from Saudi Arabia, and you are sugesting we make Riyadh into a glow-in-the-dark sandpit. Might not do the price of oil any favours, though.The third option is that you (like the London terrorists themselves) are an idiot who thinks killing innocent civilians is actually worth considering. Ah. You've chosen option 3. Moron.

Steve,
You certainly paint paint a grim picture of all those violent Muslims out to kill everybody. Given that there are around 1,600,000 Muslims in Britain, I guess I'm lucky to get out alive. Any thoughts on why this is the first major attack by Islamic terrorists in Britain's history? Compared to, say, the 1,700 deaths (in total)caused by the the (Christian, Catholic) IRA? Count me as an exception, within the scope of terrorism. The only person I know personally to be injured by terrorism is a mate of mine called Andy, who needed 3 pieces of glass digging out of him when the (Cristian, Catholic) IRA blew up a shopping mall in Manchester some years back. Funded by Americans, but that's a moot point.Out of interest, how many Muslins do you actually know? (I don't mean met, I mean really talked to). Just Curious.

Here's an idea: Make yourself a big sign saying "F--k the Pope" and go for a walk down Shankhill Road in Belfast. Then make another sign saying "F--k Martin Luther", and go for a walk down the Falls Road. Then come back and tell us about how the fanatical Christians are kept in check, and the community doesn't support grievous harm.Hint: Get life insurance first.

Yes, I'd agree that there is less tolerance is many Islamic countries. However, the point I was trying to make is that there is nothing special about Christianity or Islam when it comes to religeous fanatics prepared to kill for a perverted veiw of their faith. Your sweeping statements suggesting that 20% of mankind are pre-disposed to violence because of thier faith are so simplistic as to be laughable.

Hmmm. I was going to produce a detailed reply based on globalsecurity.org's list of current conflicts and a map, but if you're getting your information from the hopelessly xenophobic frontpagemagazine.com, I won't bother. You can go and look for yourself if you are interested - here - but I'm sure you'd rather wait for Ann Coulter to boil it down into small words for you. I'm not going to waste any more time on this.

Before the thread dies of old age, an update from the BBC:Detectives now believe the London bombings were carried out by four British-born men in what were possibly the country's first suicide attacks.Security sources said it was likely at least three of the men, said to be of Pakistani descent, are dead, after belongings were found at the scenes.The details emerged as explosives were found in Leeds and Luton after a series of raids. One man has been arrested.
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More at the article. I guess we've got to nuke West Yorkshire now: Shame, there are some nice pubs around there.