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Lemming
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Message 1 of 59 (22424)
11-13-2002 1:05 AM


wondering if someone can tell me 2 natural Gases which ignite when put together ?
can find anything on the internet about this

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John
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Message 2 of 59 (22429)
11-13-2002 2:00 AM
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11-13-2002 1:05 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
wondering if someone can tell me 2 natural Gases which ignite when put together ?
can find anything on the internet about this

How hard are you going to squeeze them?
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Weyland
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Message 3 of 59 (22449)
11-13-2002 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lemming
11-13-2002 1:05 AM


Define "natural".
At the right temperature, sodium is a gas, and it'll react quite nicely with gaseous oxygen at that temperature.

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Lemming
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Message 4 of 59 (22502)
11-13-2002 12:34 PM


"At the right temperature, sodium is a gas, and it'll react quite nicely with gaseous oxygen at that temperature."
can these 2 gases be found in space ?
i'm just trying to learn not doubting any theory behind the big bang or agree i just want to broaden my knowledge....

  
Lemming
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Message 5 of 59 (22503)
11-13-2002 12:36 PM


How hard are you going to squeeze them?
that depends how hard they can be squeeze in space before there was anything there to squeeze them.....

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John
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Message 6 of 59 (22517)
11-13-2002 2:23 PM
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11-13-2002 12:36 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
How hard are you going to squeeze them?
that depends how hard they can be squeeze in space before there was anything there to squeeze them.....

I thought maybe you were going this way.
What laws of nature are we dealing with prior to the existence of everything we call nature? Prior to the existence of space and time?
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Lemming
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Message 7 of 59 (22520)
11-13-2002 2:56 PM
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11-13-2002 2:23 PM


nice one thing is i would like you to tell me ?

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John
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Message 8 of 59 (22526)
11-13-2002 3:34 PM
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11-13-2002 2:56 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
nice one thing is i would like you to tell me ?

I would like me to tell you too. But I can't. Sadly, you'll just have to wait like the rest of us.
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Lemming
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Message 9 of 59 (22531)
11-13-2002 4:03 PM
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11-13-2002 3:34 PM


i saw that coming.... lol so that means there was no big bang i guess no firework show no creator it was already there
because if before there was nothing then there wouldn't have been a big bang there wouldn't have been gases rocks planets no place for a god to live nothing would have lived no nature no space no universe,
however this stuff could have already been there and the big bang was only the creation of our own solar system the rest was already there just it expanded evolved if you like
no words to support this however just it the more believeable story wouldn't you agree

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John
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Message 10 of 59 (22537)
11-13-2002 4:26 PM
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11-13-2002 4:03 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
i saw that coming.... lol so that means there was no big bang i guess no firework show no creator it was already there
No it doesn't. It means we don't know what happened at the moment of and before the BB.
quote:
because if before there was nothing then there wouldn't have been a big bang there wouldn't have been gases rocks planets no place for a god to live nothing would have lived no nature no space no universe,
Maybe you should learn a bit about physics before singing your victory song.
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however this stuff could have already been there and the big bang was only the creation of our own solar system the rest was already there just it expanded evolved if you like
The BB was the creation of our solar system? See above.
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Lemming
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Message 11 of 59 (22542)
11-13-2002 5:49 PM
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11-13-2002 4:26 PM


No it doesn't. It means we don't know what happened at the moment of and before the BB.
Then why are people preaching the BB like its a fact that took place?
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Maybe you should learn a bit about physics before singing your victory song.
Why when i have only contradicted your own statements ?
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The BB was the creation of our solar system? See above
Tell me what i am meant to be looking at ?
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John
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Message 12 of 59 (22598)
11-13-2002 10:54 PM
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11-13-2002 5:49 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
Then why are people preaching the BB like its a fact that took place?
Because the evidence points to the conclusion that it did happen, or that something very similar happened.
Looking backwards we can infer just up to the BB, but cannot infer quite to the moment of the BB.
quote:
Why when i have only contradicted your own statements ?
You think you contradicted your misunderstandings of what you think are the implications of what I said.
quote:
Tell me what i am meant to be looking at ?
The part about educating yourself concerning physics.
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joz
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Message 13 of 59 (22601)
11-13-2002 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lemming
11-13-2002 1:05 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
wondering if someone can tell me 2 natural Gases which ignite when put together ?
can find anything on the internet about this

And now for the question that I can`t believe nobody else asked.....
How is this relevant to the big bang?

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Lemming
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Message 14 of 59 (22607)
11-13-2002 11:31 PM
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11-13-2002 11:10 PM


well gases go bang when ignited hence big bang when there is alot of gas, 2 gases that can ignite when put together could be a theory couldn't it ?
well i thought Scientists looked at all aspecs of the subject they was studying,i guess you didn't d'oh.... , why else would i bring it up?
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-13-2002]

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Lemming
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Message 15 of 59 (22610)
11-13-2002 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by John
11-13-2002 10:54 PM


there fore you can infer up to the moment but can not infer at the point could that means something could have happen and possibly didn't ??? ........
You think i contradicted my misunderstandings of what you think are the implications of what you said.
i think you contradicting your misunderstandings of what you think are the implications of what i said works both ways nothing clever about that ......
Physics i know enough to say you can't divide something by 0 so why are you even trying to do that if something has the value of 0 it means theres nothing however some people would like to tell me other wise i think that your that type of person

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