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Author Topic:   Design and the intelligence hypothesis
Modulous
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Message 3 of 109 (226131)
07-25-2005 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
07-24-2005 9:47 PM


Desginer of the designer
So,if we ask what designed the designer necessary to support your hypothesis, and,continuing on in like fashion ad infinitum, what designed the designer of the designer of the design,we quickly see the absurdity of the position.
This seemingly logical tangle occurs in the Big Bank type theories. Where did the laws of physics come from? Did they just 'poof' into existence? From where did they 'poof'? If they poofed as the result of a set of laws and rules, where did those rules poof from?
AbE: I agree that the most parsomonius solution is naturalism. At some point the IDers have to accept that there is either a timeless/eternal being with phenomenal universe creating powers (everyone else calls him God, but the IDers seem to go beserk at the suggestion) or that the universe is the result of a sequence of natural, albeit unexplainable, circumstances.
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Modulous
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Message 5 of 109 (226136)
07-25-2005 8:17 AM
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07-25-2005 8:13 AM


physics of physics (meta physics)
The problem is, that if I ask that question one of two things will happen.
1) A boffin will say "We don't know", and I will accept that and the thread will end.
2) A boffin will say "We don't know, but here is my favourite theory, *cue a string of arcane physics three steps ahead of my measly A-Level*"
Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to have a constructive discussion either way...though I might enjoy watching such a discussion to see what ideas get thrown around.

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