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joz Inactive Member |
quote: LMFAO you should take some of your own advice.... From Create a Website | Tripod Web Hosting
quote: If all matter was confined to an atomic nucleus your 2 gasses scenario is hardly very relevant is it? I think you need to go and do some reading, afterall this whole thread is based on a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what you are trying to argue against..... Joz - Bsc Physics and space science (Cantab)
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John Inactive Member |
quote: If you mean that we don't know, then yes, you are correct.
quote: Except that after about five physics classes you'll be kicking yourself.
quote: Aha... division by zero. I hate to break it to you but this isn't physics, its math. Ever wonder why you can't divide by zero? The short answer is that no one can figure out what to do if we allow it. In other words, it causes trouble so we kicked it out. This has nothing whatsoever to do with natural law.
quote: Ever notice that 1 + -1 = 0 ? Or 0 = 1 + -1 ? Interesting, we still have nothing but it looks different.
quote: But you are too smart for that.
quote: Am I also the type to tell you that your last sentence was a run-on sentence? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Lemming Inactive Member |
lmfao
Fifteen billion years ago, the entirety of our universe was compressed into the confines of an atomic nucleus. Known as a singularity If all matter was confined to an atomic nucleus your 2 gasses scenario is hardly very relevant is it? what does atomic mean ? and also can something atomic be a gas? also can you have 2 types of atomic gases ? first proposed by Einstein in 1924 [This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: And you are drawing this conclusion based on what? The real irony here is that the evidence suggests it did in fact happen. That we can or cannot understand it is not the universe's problem. When you say it 'technically' can't happen, what you mean is that we don't how it could have happened. Wow... we don't know something. I'm stunned. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Lemming Inactive Member |
1 + -1 = 0 = -1 + 1 i agree it doesn't look right but lets do this sum under the exsistence of items
Lemmings cookies Lemming has 1 cookie John has -1 Cookies Joz has a entire pack of cookies if i was to give you john my cookie it would mean you would have 0 but i gave you a cookie so you should have 1 because you can't have -1 cookies this is where you could be wrong to have -1 cookies you must have borrowed 1 cookie and ate it but in the theory of the big bang no one has beable to rule this exsistence of anything out so its possible you could have borrow a cookie of joz now the cookie i have gave you now is in joz's hands so the maths now look like this Lemming 0 cookies John 0 Cookies joz a pack + 1 cookie So does this mean you should looking at exsistence before the BB ?
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Karl Inactive Member |
And what makes you think that the BB singularity obeys the same mathematical and physical laws as cookies?
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Primordial Egg Inactive Member |
quote: How many cookies were there before the Big Bang? ------------------It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out. - Bertrand Russell
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Lemming Inactive Member |
am i right to say Atom's can do exactly what i did with those cookies?
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Primordial Egg Inactive Member |
quote: Not sure what you did with those cookies to be honest. Didn't you give them to John? ------------------It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out. - Bertrand Russell
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Lemming Inactive Member |
Technically laughting your butt off is not possible unless you add other things to its conclusion lets see rotton flesh then its possible
if you add thingas to a theory that are logical its can become possible but we knew that ..... and the maths which you stated is only possible in the way i stated Right or its only logical in the way i explainned it
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Lemming Inactive Member |
no i didn't just do that
let me explain it this way john had borrowed a cookie and ate it or did something to it to make in disappear this gives him 0 cookies but he had to give it back to the person who borrowed it him giving john -1 cookies i had 1 cookie which i gave john meaning he has 1 cookie and plus i gave it him meaning he doesn't have to give me it back but because john borrowed a cookie he has now got to give that back the reason for joz's pressence is that john borrowed his first cookie off joz and then gave back the cookie in which i gave john making the sum add up That means you have got to look at the exsistence of something else to make what you are trying to say logical now should you be looking at exsistence before the big bang ? [This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]
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Lemming Inactive Member |
playing dumb and avioding or to ignore something that was perfectly Logical is totally stupid wonder if those scientists studying some of these things do what you have just done because it seems like it
[This message has been edited by Lemming, 11-14-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: I'm sorry. What exactly DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT? You did take first grade math, right?
quote: As has been pointed out already, why do you think the physics of the BB follows the same laws as that of cookie distribution? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
The singularity that existed just prior to the Big Bang was a quark plasma, sometimes referred to as a quark soup in popular literature. It wasn't matter as we know it. Only some time after the Big Bang began did the universe become cool enough (though still incredibly hot) for the quarks to combine to form sub-atomic particles like protons, neutrons and electrons. Some additional time passed before additional expansion and cooling allowed these particles to combine into atoms, mostly just hydrogen, a little helium, and a very little lithium.
A chemical explosion such as might occur if you provided a spark to a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen is the wrong analog for the Big Bang. The Big Bang was not the result of chemical forces, because such forces only exist between elements, and no elements, ie, no atoms, existed at the time of the Big Bang. It was due to the interaction of the fundamental properties inherent in matter and energy, and to properties inherent in the universe itself. --Percy
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John Inactive Member |
quote: What?
[quote][b]if you add thingas to a theory that are logical its can become possible but we knew that ..... [/q][/quote] What?
quote: What? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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