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Percy
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Message 29 of 59 (22701)
11-14-2002 11:46 AM


The singularity that existed just prior to the Big Bang was a quark plasma, sometimes referred to as a quark soup in popular literature. It wasn't matter as we know it. Only some time after the Big Bang began did the universe become cool enough (though still incredibly hot) for the quarks to combine to form sub-atomic particles like protons, neutrons and electrons. Some additional time passed before additional expansion and cooling allowed these particles to combine into atoms, mostly just hydrogen, a little helium, and a very little lithium.
A chemical explosion such as might occur if you provided a spark to a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen is the wrong analog for the Big Bang. The Big Bang was not the result of chemical forces, because such forces only exist between elements, and no elements, ie, no atoms, existed at the time of the Big Bang. It was due to the interaction of the fundamental properties inherent in matter and energy, and to properties inherent in the universe itself.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 32 of 59 (22715)
11-14-2002 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by John
11-14-2002 11:46 AM


Hollywood has their Oscars, maybe we should have our Brads. Only with Brad's okay, of course.
"And now, for best post creating Gordian Knots of obfuscation using grammatical expressions that violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, the award goes to..."
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 37 of 59 (22732)
11-14-2002 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Lemming
11-14-2002 12:36 PM


Hi Lemming,
Lemming writes:
John only take part in this discussion if you have something to say you are confused in you own problem i simple added something to your sums and gave a logical meaning to them if you fail to see that then why are you taking part on this forum to understand and learn correct?????????? then pay attention and answer the question or atleast give a answer of some degree or mention a fact that i might have over looked to help me learn too
I have to confess that, like John, I had trouble deciphering this. Here's my attempt to translate:
John, only take part in this discussion if you have something to say. If you are confused that's your problem. I simply added something to your sums and gave a logical meaning to them. If you fail to see that then why are you taking part on this forum? You're here to understand and learn, correct? Then pay attention and answer the question, or at least give an answer of some degree, or mention a fact that I might have over looked to help me learn, too.
If this is right, or at least close, then it sounds like you feel you've explained things clearly but that John isn't being constructive in his responses. I guess I'd agree, in part, with you both. Your posts are very difficult to understand, and John isn't doing much to help you.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 42 of 59 (22746)
11-14-2002 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Lemming
11-14-2002 3:08 PM


Lemming writes:
what if the same logic could happen with Atoms. Atoms can have a negative value for short periods of time, Could they take away energy from a atom with the value of 1, And make atoms with the value of 0 which you have reason to believe exsist
If this refers to the big bang then please see Message 29. There were no atoms in existence at the time of the Big Bang.
--Percy

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