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lfen
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Joined: 06-24-2004


Message 106 of 111 (215762)
06-09-2005 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Brian
06-09-2005 4:07 PM


Re: Poetic license!
PS, I seem to remember that Buddha hinted at the non-existence of Brahma during a conversation with a Brahmin, but I can't remember where I read it, does it ring a bell with you?
A very dim one, dimmer than your bell it seems. I can't help anymore than saying, yeah, I might have come across that, I just can't remember.
As a bonus I'll recount the derivation of my nickname. I like short easy to type nicks. For a few years I used "nelf" and then one day I tried to register at a site only to discover they had a nelf, so spelling nelf backwards and I was in like "flen". I was flen only a shortwhile when I found a site that already had a flen, so I swapped the first to letters and became "lfen". I've yet to come across another lfen. Try pronouncing it in a vaguely French way as L'fen. of course it's meaningless so a majority of people reading read a more meaningful ifen. Which I don't mind, but when you shortened the nick to If, which is okay I thought maybe I'd explain. I use lowercase "L" to avoid the shiftkey is all.
lfen aka ifen

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jar
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From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 107 of 111 (215763)
06-09-2005 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by lfen
06-09-2005 10:57 PM


Re: Poetic license!
IIRC there is a tale of the Buddha after reaching enlightenment when he was contemplating that he should associate or live near another contemplative where an entity much like a GOD comes into play, a Brahma. I'll see if I can find a reference to it. It was an introspective thought piece IIRC.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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lfen
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From: Oregon
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Message 108 of 111 (215764)
06-09-2005 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Brian
06-09-2005 4:07 PM


Brahma and Brahman
For western students to let go of this idea of the God of the Bible is extremely difficult, and they always seem to keep thinking of Brahma as essentially the same type of being as Yahweh.
I think Meister Eckert got at a distinction between the manifest deity and the unmanifest deity that might correspond to the difference between Brahman who is the sole source and reality of all the forms He manifests one of which is the manifest deity Brahma.
Once again my life is getting busier and I'm getting worn down by the simplistic insisting of the fundamentalists that only their way is right all others being demonic deceptions including all the science that can't find any evidence for demons which are great literary devices but extremely poor explanatory models. (Well, excepting that most fundamentalist tend to think dramatic literary devices are the best explanatory models and perhaps that is why they are fundamentalist and not scientists or philosophers?) So I'm not going to going into much detail at this point. Perhaps a bit later this summer if and when things slow down a bit.
lfen aka ifen

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Brian
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From: Scotland
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Message 109 of 111 (215790)
06-10-2005 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by lfen
06-09-2005 11:13 PM


Re: Brahma and Brahman
Hi L'fen
So I'm not going to going into much detail at this point. Perhaps a bit later this summer if and when things slow down a bit.
I only have 3 weeks of school before summer hols begin, and I am going to be doing my best to make sure I don't have to go back LOL!!
So, hopefully, we can have a good discussion when we both have the time.
Brian.

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Mr. Creationist
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Message 110 of 111 (227212)
07-28-2005 11:17 PM


Why I believe
Someone else said that many people from many different religions have claimed to have had deep encounters with God and have heard from Him, so wh is right? I too claim to have been powerfully effected by God. here is a main reasons why I believe the Bible.
1. It is the most powerful faith: what other religion has people that are raised from the dead including their founder(Jesus)? I know of no other religion where the main Prophet has been raised from the dead, and also raied people from the dead. You may be saying that we have no proof that Jesus was raised back up, but it is still happening today! The evangilist Rhinhard Bonke(I think I spelled it right)in one of his meetings had some people bring a dead man, and during the course of the meeting, the man was raised back to life! Smith Wigglesworth raised 7!!! people from the dead! Jesus predicted this, He said that the wonders taht he did, His followers would do the same and more.

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robinrohan
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Message 111 of 111 (227217)
07-28-2005 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Mr. Creationist
07-28-2005 11:17 PM


Re: Why I believe
The evangilist Rhinhard Bonke(I think I spelled it right)in one of his meetings had some people bring a dead man, and during the course of the meeting, the man was raised back to life! Smith Wigglesworth raised 7!!! people from the dead! Jesus predicted this, He said that the wonders taht he did, His followers would do the same and more.
If this actually happened, I think we would have heard it on the news. It would be quite a news story. I tuned in to all the various news stations and didn't hear a thing about somebody raising people from the dead. That would have been one of the greatest news stories of all time, but the networks are silent.
Is it a secret?

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