All Evolutionary scientists have been Evolutionary Indoctrinated

iano The layperson accepts much at face value and this is true of even experts in one field who try to venture into the expertise of another field.The best one can do is if one disagrees with a given aspect of an issue is to educate themselves to the level of commitment that they have.If,after all that,you are still disatisfied then you will remain disatisied.This is not a failure or success of the theories or facts but a failure of the person to commit to the hard work necessary to rise to the intellectual level necessary to argue a position.One might point out that technology that is succesfully deployed as a result of the theories is ample backing for the success of a theory's validity.Most of modern medicine {bdepends[/b] on the validity of Evolutionary theory to account for its ability to cure ills and improve life for people.So the best you can do is to question and raed up on the means by which conclusions are reached and remember that doubt is a good thing,not the only thing.

randman Really? Do you have a alternative view for how we should develop vaccines against antibiotic resistant bacteria? Can you explain why the use of cowpox on humans{the first vaccine ever} is effective in preventing smallpox from infecting humans? How can the pus from an infected animal,which when introduced to the human being result in defense against a human disease? Indeed, why would a disease of cows, result in a mild infection in humans?Why is streptococcus Pneumonia resistant to penicillin?Indeed,it has developed resistance to several antibiotics.Can you explain how this is accomplished?This message has been edited by sidelined, Mon, 2005-08-01 08:22 AM

iano That evolution is accepted as fact does not make it true it makes it the best explanation of the evidence that we observe in nature and experiment.Science is not about truth but about clarity.I do not think I would try to convince you of how the vast number of investigations in multiple scientific disciplines converge in support of evolution but I would ask what it is that you find to be about evolution that does not make sense to you?

randman Belief has nothing to do with the vaccinations effectiveness so yes belief in ToE is not required.Now please answer my questions. If you wish you can bring up an alternate explanation to ToE but please answer the questions just the same.

ianoThe point I am trying drive home is to ask the questions pertainent to the puzzle. We enlist the aid of vaccines to combat disease and after time we discover that the vaccines no longer work.What changes to allow this to happen?In my first example we have an observation by people that people who came down with cowpox were confered immunity from the often deadly smallpox disease.Now what is the means by which a disease of cows could be placed in humans and thereby trigger within our immune system the means to defend against a human disease? Cows are after all not human are they? What is common between the two different species that allows this?

iano Ok then let us go a further step.Why is the cowpox not deadly to humans if the same mechanism is in place?

IanoJust so I do not get missed in the reply deluge you receive could you take time to respond to message 213 so we can continue.
We also may end up better off breaking into separate thread since the limit on posts here is around # 300 due to problems that result from the software I believe.

iano Fine.Now here is a puzzle.Why is monkeypox deadly to humans?This message has been edited by sidelined, Tue, 2005-08-02 09:51 PM