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bible believer
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Message 46 of 107 (22970)
11-17-2002 12:02 AM
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11-01-2002 8:33 AM


It is very sad to see that people are so very narrow minded. These same people that do not believe that Dinosaurs were on the ark are the same people that feel that the Big Bang Theory is true. Get a grip! The dinosaur that scientists have created are just as bad as Santa Claus. Dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible! Being that the word was created in 1841, you have to read between the lines. Didn't you guys learn that in school? I guess you were too caught up in learning about Dinosaurs! Duh!

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Message 47 of 107 (22971)
11-17-2002 12:57 AM
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11-17-2002 12:02 AM


Actually, dinosaurs still exist. One of them is vice-president of the U.S.

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nator
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Message 48 of 107 (22983)
11-17-2002 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by bible believer
11-17-2002 12:02 AM


quote:
Originally posted by bible believer:
It is very sad to see that people are so very narrow minded. These same people that do not believe that Dinosaurs were on the ark are the same people that feel that the Big Bang Theory is true. Get a grip! The dinosaur that scientists have created are just as bad as Santa Claus. Dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible! Being that the word was created in 1841, you have to read between the lines. Didn't you guys learn that in school? I guess you were too caught up in learning about Dinosaurs! Duh!
Which dinosaurs were on the Ark?

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metatron
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Message 49 of 107 (23976)
11-23-2002 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by bible believer
11-17-2002 12:02 AM


Given the number of species of animals both living and extinct can anyone think of a materiel strong enough to construct the mythical boat of Noah. I really can't see wood being structurally sound enough to support that sort of tonnage. Hang on, talking (or typing) of tonnage what did noah do with all the shit, the shit alone would have weighed millions of tonnes a day. Claiming the shit was disposed of via the magic of god is an intelectual cop out, and no you cannot toilet train most animals. The more I think about this the more laughable it becomes, maybe space aliens beamed the shit away.

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Message 50 of 107 (23977)
11-23-2002 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by metatron
11-23-2002 8:31 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Metatron:
Given the number of species of animals both living and extinct can anyone think of a materiel strong enough to construct the mythical boat of Noah. I really can't see wood being structurally sound enough to support that sort of tonnage. Hang on, talking (or typing) of tonnage what did noah do with all the shit, the shit alone would have weighed millions of tonnes a day. Claiming the shit was disposed of via the magic of god is an intelectual cop out, and no you cannot toilet train most animals. The more I think about this the more laughable it becomes, maybe space aliens beamed the shit away.
OR just a thought they shovelled it overboard? I have heard some theory to that perhaps there was some kind of hibernation that would have happened with the animals ... but I'm sure everyone has an answer for that as well ..... I'll shut up now .... crazy creationist.

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metatron
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Message 51 of 107 (23980)
11-23-2002 8:55 PM
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11-23-2002 8:39 PM


OR just a thought they shovelled it overboard? I have heard some theory to that perhaps there was some kind of hibernation that would have happened with the animals ... but I'm sure everyone has an answer for that as well ..... I'll shut up now .... crazy creationist. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hibernation is an evolved survival reflex in certain species I think we can ignore that. I really cant see Noah and his immediate family shovelling that much everyday.
Anyone know how many crew members were supposed to be on the ark?.

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Message 52 of 107 (24317)
11-25-2002 9:05 PM
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08-29-2002 2:29 AM


The Bible DOES mention dinosaurs. Ever heard of dragons? The Bible does not mention every single animal that God created. Even if it did, wouldn't you think that that was slighty odd? They probably still existed then, so why would you mention them as proof for years later?

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joz
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Message 53 of 107 (24321)
11-25-2002 9:15 PM
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11-23-2002 8:55 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Metatron:
Hibernation is an evolved survival reflex in certain species I think we can ignore that. I really cant see Noah and his immediate family shovelling that much everyday.
Anyone know how many crew members were supposed to be on the ark?.

8 Noah, Ham, Shem, Japeth and their 4 wives....
Also Noah was apparently a hexacentenial geriatric at the time....

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metatron
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Message 54 of 107 (24835)
11-28-2002 5:52 PM
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11-25-2002 9:15 PM


8 Noah, Ham, Shem, Japeth and their 4 wives....
Also Noah was apparently a hexacentenial geriatric at the time....[/B][/QUOTE]
Thankyou for that, as i suspected (but was far too lazy to look myself) there simply were not enough crew members to shovel all the dung overboard. Shame really it would have explained the creation of north america (joke).
I don't think 8 people could muck out one brontosaurus in a day. Lucky for god there's so much belief kicking about to fill the holes in his omnipotent allseeing "truth".

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doctrbill
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Message 55 of 107 (24870)
11-28-2002 9:31 PM
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11-25-2002 9:15 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Metatron:
I really cant see Noah and his immediate family shovelling that much everyday. Anyone know how many crew members were supposed to be on the ark?.
There are eight persons listed, but then again, slaves were not considered to be persons, so, take along as many slaves as you like. Still won't change the amount of fresh water you must supply to the Elephants, Hippo's, and bath-loving wives.
db

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Ryfso
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Message 56 of 107 (27212)
12-18-2002 11:03 AM


quote:
There are eight personslisted, but then again, slaves were not considered to be persons, so, take along as many slaves as you like. Still won't change the amount of fresh water you must supply to the Elephants, Hippo's, and bath-loving wives.
db
Indulge a Bible-stupid kid for a moment, but the references to slavery you make there, can they backed up with biblical passages? If so, that would be just awesome.

     
undone
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Message 57 of 107 (28831)
01-10-2003 4:29 PM


It is very sad to see that people are so very narrow minded. These same people that do not believe that Dinosaurs were on the ark are the same people that feel that the Big Bang Theory is true. Get a grip! The dinosaur that scientists have created are just as bad as Santa Claus. Dinosaurs are mentioned in the bible! Being that the word was created in 1841, you have to read between the lines. Didn't you guys learn that in school? I guess you were too caught up in learning about Dinosaurs! Duh!
"Behold now behemoth, which I am made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
Lo now, his strength is in the loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
He moveth his tail like a cedar; this sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron."
These biblical verses (Job 40 v. 15-18) are the main account for Behemoth, which creationists believe is a Sauropod dinosaur (namely Apatosaurus/Brontosaurus).
However, from these verses, and the verses following (19-24), most scholars believe the Behemoth is nothing more than a hippopotamus for various reasons:
- Verse 23, saying, "Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not; he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth." has been attributed to the large mouth of the hippopotamus opening while the beast is in the water, almost giving the illusion of the beast drinking the water.
- More conclusively though, it describes the Behemoth as having a navel. This rules out dinosaurs as they laid eggs and therefore had no need for a navel (no umbilical chord).
- Sauropod dinosaurs, such as Apatosaurus, would have had a hard time eating grass with their large, blunt teeth. Also, an eighty-foot dinosaur would have an even harder time laying "under the shady trees, In the covert reed and fens".
Others though, have claimed that the beast is not a hippopotamus, but rather, an elephant. In apocryphal literature and Jewish legend, the behemoth is a monster of formidable strength.
Traditionally, the word behemoth can be given to any large, heavy, and otherwise unknown animal. The word behemoth comes from the plural of the Hebrew b'hemah, meaning 'beast'.
The behemoth was often linked with another beast described in the very next chapter of Job: the Leviathan. In the apocryphal book of Enoch the two creatures are described as follows:
"And in that day will two monsters be separated, a female named Leviathan to dwell in the abyss over the fountains of waters. But the male is called Behemoth which occupies with his breasts an immeasurable desert named Dendain."
In other legends, the two are supposed to be deadly enemies who battle at the beginning of time, and must be destroyed by the Lord before they destroy his creation. In other stories these two battled on the Day of Judgment.
In Jewish legend, the behemoth was supposedly created out of clay on the sixth day of creation. This differs from the accounts in the bible that suggest that the behemoth was the first of God's works. Only one was created, so it could not multiply.
The behemoth is said to be one of the delicacies served at the messianic banquet at the end of days. The other delicacies are the ziz, and the leviathan, again reinforcing the link between the two creatures.

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metatron
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Message 58 of 107 (28833)
01-10-2003 6:11 PM
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01-10-2003 4:29 PM


What did noah do with all the shit undone?. Where did he get all the feed and fresh water from?. Wasnt the leviathan originally stolen by the christians from greek mythology?.
[This message has been edited by Metatron, 01-10-2003]

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iconoclast2440
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Message 59 of 107 (28844)
01-11-2003 3:59 AM


there goes the God made buried bone theory. (and i thought he wasn't the author of confusion).
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/..._021010_dinomummy.html

  
iconoclast2440
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Message 60 of 107 (28845)
01-11-2003 4:02 AM


the whole dinos on the ark thing is such nonsense...ALL the dinosaurs riiiiiight? You all realize the mesozoic era was split in three parts right? Not all the dinosaurs coexisted.

  
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