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My problem with evolution

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Zhimbo
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11-17-2002 1:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by robinrohan
11-17-2002 12:59 PM

posting mistake...shared computer!
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Zhimbo
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11-26-2002 2:54 AM 		Reply to: Message 109 by robinrohan
11-25-2002 5:27 PM

The pictorial image of a computer is purely epiphenomenal from the computers "point of view". Turn the monitor off. The computer cares not a whit.
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I suspect it is, in principle, possible to make a monitor image of a human mental image. Not possible in reality in the forseeable future, but that's not the point.
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If that is true, is there any real difference between computers "images" and mental images? If that isn't true, why isn't it true?
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No, computers don't. They produce a pictorial image. Are you suggesting that the brain produces a physical pictorial image?
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I've already talked about this with Obsidian and Quetval and they agreed that the brain does not produce a pictorial image, only an electrical image. What that means is the comparison with computers does not hold.
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Zhimbo
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From: New Hampshire, USA
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11-26-2002 2:55 AM 		Reply to: Message 109 by robinrohan
11-25-2002 5:27 PM

The pictorial image of a computer is purely epiphenomenal from the computers "point of view". Turn the monitor off. The computer cares not a whit.
​
I suspect it is, in principle, possible to make a monitor image of a human mental image. Not possible in reality in the forseeable future, but that's not the point.
​
If that is true, is there any real difference between computers "images" and mental images? If that isn't true, why isn't it true?
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Previous message:
quote:
No, computers don't. They produce a pictorial image. Are you suggesting that the brain produces a physical pictorial image?
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I've already talked about this with Obsidian and Quetval and they agreed that the brain does not produce a pictorial image, only an electrical image. What that means is the comparison with computers does not hold.
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