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Author Topic:   Rapid speciation after the flood
Tranquility Base
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Message 46 of 47 (23565)
11-21-2002 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Fred Williams
11-21-2002 7:33 PM


Thanks Fred. I've also seen creaitonist estimates of only 2500 kinds on the ark. Even that would not require too much speciation.
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derwood
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Message 47 of 47 (23585)
11-21-2002 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Fred Williams
11-21-2002 7:33 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fred Williams:
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Originally posted by SLPx:
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Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
My basic answer is that the 2000 or so speciation events per year required are not happening in series but in parallel. This is evoltuion we're talking about! It is a branching thing. It is multiplicative. Naively, but logically, if we branch from 20,000 kinds every 100 years one would quickly get 10 million kinds by 1500 BC.
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That is all well and good as far as speculation goes, but wouldn't someone have noticed this going on?

Wouldn't those hundreds of children per breeding couple have noticed the emrgence of a new bat kind every 11 years or so (being VERY genrous to the YEC position with that...)?

It strains credulity...

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Quetzel's question was flawed as shown here:
www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=128&m=48#48 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=128&m=48#48">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=128&m=48#48

There simply is no problem. Most of the species were not required on the ark. It's a toothless argument.


Your reply is totally irrelevant - a strawman/red herring.
And utter nonsense from a population genetics POV.

Please provide the model that could account for such diversification.

With lab observations, please.

Your ignorance on bats notwithstanding.


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