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Phat
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Message 16 of 300 (237812)
08-27-2005 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Faith
08-27-2005 4:10 PM


Re: Nuggin deserves a suspension
He was suspended and after an apology I gave him an early break.
I guess he had a 12 hour suspension....
Gosh, do you guys actually count the minutes of administrative actions? It all boils down to attitude. If he disrespects you again, tell us.
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Faith
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Message 17 of 300 (237819)
08-27-2005 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Phat
08-27-2005 7:24 PM


Re: Nuggin deserves a suspension
I just saw him posting when I thought he was supposed to be gone, that's all. I checked the time after that. Glad to hear he apologized.

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Faith
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Message 18 of 300 (237824)
08-27-2005 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by CK
08-27-2005 6:31 PM


Re: Yes I do will turn snitch!
You asked in your next post what I mean by your accusing me of sin. Well this post is a perfect example of it. Sin = moral failure, moral transgression. Just one accusation after another -- I'm the bad guy because I denounce others for their personal attacks on my character, which have often come from you as well as others. Yes I'd be a better person if I were less hotheaded I'm sure, and I'm trying to cool it and may God change me, but I'm generally not attacking people for their beliefs and opinions and making comments about their character based on their beliefs and opinions but for their attacks on mine. You seem to overlook that part of the exchange.

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Nuggin
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Message 19 of 300 (237830)
08-27-2005 8:01 PM


Wow, I'm famous!
A whole thread about little old me!

For the record,

My language in the post Faith mentioned above (I too do not know how to link) was overly strong.

It was a reaction to two things:

First, the use of the word "know" in place of the word "believe". I was urging the other posters to abandon the debate since you can not argue with someone who doesn't differentiate between these terms.

Second, and more personally, I was offended by Faith's flippant disregard of my earlier post. Faith has asked for an explaination about how layers of rock could be have such striking boards. I gave an example, albeit simple, that explains the processes involved.

Faith's reply

The usual evolutionist semi-plausible scenarios. Mine make more sense.

I guess we all need to grow some thicker skin


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Faith
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Message 20 of 300 (237831)
08-27-2005 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Nuggin
08-27-2005 8:01 PM


Re: Wow, I'm famous!
It is not your place to judge what I believe, no matter WHAT you think of it, and you have dogged my steps ever since, setting yourself up as my judge and jury which is outrageously arrogant of you. I'm glad you have apologized but that sort of behavior deserves more than a 24 hour suspension otherwise. And you had barged into the middle of a tricky discussion with your post about the geological issues, apparently without having read any of the previous thread, and I'd just had about all I could take. Yes, I need to simmer down too, God help me.
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Theodoric
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Message 21 of 300 (237832)
08-27-2005 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
08-27-2005 8:10 PM


Re: Wow, I'm famous!
So it is ok for you to lash out at people,but everone better tip toe around you. You are pretty damn self-righteous. You can't have it both ways. If you want to report people every time you feel offended, be damn sure the same will happen to you. I cannot believe your a so full of such smug self-righteousness.

You are so damned concerned about people criticizing your beliefs but have no problem condemning and criticizing people with beliefs other than yours. Must be nice knowing you are the possesor of the ultimate truths.


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randman 
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Message 22 of 300 (237850)
08-27-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Theodoric
08-27-2005 8:17 PM


Re: Wow, I'm famous!
The self-righteousness is far more evident in Faith's critics here than the other way around, imo.
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Nuggin
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Message 23 of 300 (237854)
08-27-2005 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
08-27-2005 8:10 PM


Re: Wow, I'm famous!
It is not your place to judge what I believe, no matter WHAT you think of it,

I'm confused by this statement. I don't think that I have been judging your beliefs at all.

I would also point out that if you don't want people to question your ideas, posting those ideas on a forum is probably not the best strategy.

have dogged my steps ever since, setting yourself up as my judge and jury which is outrageously arrogant of you

Huh? It's true I have responded to a number of your posts, also Tal's and Randman's. This is because you three, more than anyone else, are posting things that I disagree with. It makes no sense to post messages like "I agree", that's not debate, it's cronism.

As for the judge and jury part, this I don't understand. How am I judge or jury. How does my opinion carry any more weight than anyone elses?

outrageously arrogant
all you self-righteous perfect pure people
You are SOOOOOOOOO sure of your moral superiority and my sinfulness

You know, for someone who's upset about personal attacks, you're doing quite a lot of it in this thread.

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AdminJar
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Message 24 of 300 (237857)
08-27-2005 9:16 PM


Enough folk.
This is not a debate thread.

NO MORE POSTS like the last 21.


New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts.

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wj
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Message 25 of 300 (237867)
08-27-2005 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by AdminJar
08-27-2005 9:16 PM


Re: Enough folk.
Again it appears that Faith is being provided with unjustified lenience. Other posters in this thread have given examples of inappropriate postings by Faith but Admin choose to offer no admonishment or even comment. I think that admin should keep Faith on a short leash rather than shoot the messenger.
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Faith
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Message 26 of 300 (237882)
08-28-2005 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Nuggin
08-27-2005 9:10 PM


Re: Wow, I'm famous!
You are right and I will stop posting personal attacks, even to personal attacks. But yours WERE personal judgmentalness, which is what I'm commenting on, not discussions of the topic at all. NEVERTHELESS, I will not respond in kind again.
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Theodoric
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Message 27 of 300 (237887)
08-28-2005 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by AdminJar
08-27-2005 9:16 PM


Re: Enough folk.
Explain what is wrong with this post. Am I out of line saying what is true. Why does Faith get a free ride? Faith can attack and criticize with no retribution, but I explain in clear coherent terms why this is unjust and I am proclaimed the bad guy???? What is up with that?
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CK
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Message 28 of 300 (237888)
08-28-2005 2:48 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Theodoric
08-28-2005 2:34 AM


Re: Enough folk.
quote:
Explain what is wrong with this post. Am I out of line saying what is true. Why does Faith get a free ride? Faith can attack and criticize with no retribution, but I explain in clear coherent terms why this is unjust and I am proclaimed the bad guy???? What is up with that?

It is like this - Faith IS held to a different standard to the rest of us and I think it because of the sheer number of posts she does. This means that she fulfills the role of multiple creationists and stop it being a load of evos mumbling at each other. This means she can lie, abuse people and basically go "NANANANANAN CANNOT HEAR YOU" to evidence and explaination long beyond the rest of us.

The only other explaination is frankly not that pleasant for faith (and is in fact downright insulting) - it is that she is being treated like the special ed students in schools - not expected to hold to the same level of behaviour and reason because they are considered incapable.

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Theodoric
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Message 29 of 300 (237890)
08-28-2005 2:50 AM


Admins: Set the parameters
Set the parameters. If nuggin is reprimanded and Faith is not tell us why. Why is Faith allowed to make bold claims and accusations without backing evidence? Why are memembers reprimanded for questioning Faiths wild assertations? More importantly why am I told to shut my mouth when I question this gross abuse. Do you want free exchange of ideas? Explain why I am wrong and i will accept, but you need to explain why.
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randman 
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Message 30 of 300 (237898)
08-28-2005 3:04 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by CK
08-28-2005 2:48 AM


Re: Enough folk.
absurd rant, as usual from Charles, making a vicious personal attack another poster with total abandon and ignoring the facts
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