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Author Topic:   Atheism isn't a belief?
Phat
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Message 23 of 329 (234060)
08-17-2005 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by crashfrog
08-17-2005 7:40 AM


Would you not agree that supreme confidance in ones own reasoning, rationality, and access to cumulative wisdom would be akin to a belief in human wisdom as the most penultimate explanation for anything and everything? The belief is not religious in the sense of the traditional definition of religion and/or deities, but the belief could be argued to be akin to self deification of humanity in general.
In other words, I could say that I don't know everything, Stephen Hawking knows more, a roomful of scientists knows still more and, given enough time, humans should figure out everything that it is possible to figure out.
Anything that falls outside of rationality can be assumed to be false until "proven" otherwise.
The problem with this approach is that it limits belief to human wisdom.
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Phat
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Message 278 of 329 (238015)
08-28-2005 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by PurpleYouko
08-26-2005 10:05 AM


Re: Summary on topic
I believe that atheism is the natural state of humanity. Of course, I believe in many parables and attributes of the Bible, and I think that after the Fall, when humans realized that they were naked, is when they literally became unaware of God. Nobody is born with an awareness of god. the Bible tells us that Gods divine power and reality are evident to anyone who looks hard enough.
Most of us have never had a reason to look. Thus, we all are atheists at at least one point in our lives. Some of us logically7 elevate human wisdom to the origin of reason and explanation. I will agree that they are not "worshipping" human wisdom per se. They are fullfilling the scripture that ye shall be as gods. Reliance on human wisdom is a normal response.
Believers, (some, at least) have actually been touched and/or contacted by God. They can not prove it nor will anyone believe them, but that is the differentiation.

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