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Nuggin
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Message 3 of 28 (238158)
08-29-2005 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by nwr
08-29-2005 1:11 AM


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Part of the problem with this whole issue is "Who are the Christians".
The term "Christian" is way too broad for what Lam is trying to say. I doubt that he's refering to Congregationalists, etc.
Subbing in Extreme Christians, or Hard Right Christians, or the "Moral Minority" might serve better for this discussion.
My problem with these groups is that they often say things like "Jesus is THE answer" as a counter to atheists, but this is horrifyingly disrespectful to the true majority of people out there who do not believe what they believe.
Generally, Christianity is a very popular religion, but Muslims, Buddists, Hindus, Jews, and many many other groups do not share this faith.
What's worse, the "Core Christian" groups - Born agains, for example - often completely disregard other Christian groups (ie Mormons and Catholics).
I share Lam's frustration. Even a simple look at the history books shows uncountable examples of horrific things done by Christians who site God's will as their excuse for their behavior. It's enough to make anyone shrink at the words.
Further, the same history books often show time and time again, that Christians have been on the wrong side of many scientific issues. Yet, given their long history of being stone cold wrong on things like astronomy, they insist that they are one hundred percent correct on evolution. After all, God said so. And he's "never been wrong before".
I can't blame Lam for losing it. There's only so much rational discussion you can offer before you start pulling out your hair and screaming "What's wrong with you people!"
I just question whether he should be screaming it in the privacy of his own room, or on these boards.
Hopefully a short break will allow cooler heads to prevail and we can get back to the business at hand - dismantling false arguments and protecting the education system from Theistic invation.

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Nuggin
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Message 5 of 28 (238244)
08-29-2005 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Silent H
08-29-2005 5:57 AM


Yup
Instead it is all those who say they are not like that, yet end up holding on to just as dogmatic of positions.
Yup, there are people in every issue like this. For example, I've heard this quote "All penitration is rape". Clearly very fringe.
I think the reason he focused on Christians is simply that those are who are posting here. There aren't any Hindi saying, "This is our story of Creation, it's fact and I refuse to accept any evidence that counters it."

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Nuggin
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Message 8 of 28 (238261)
08-29-2005 11:15 AM
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08-29-2005 10:49 AM


Re: Yup
Absolutely.
That's the whole purpose of this site. Most of the threads in the science forum are dedicated to just that - explaining the evidence which overwhelmingly supports evolution.

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Nuggin
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Message 21 of 28 (239286)
08-31-2005 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by coffee_addict
08-31-2005 11:24 PM


Re: This is not an apology post
For our European friends...
"fag" here doesn't refer to cigarettes.
There's no excuse for violence by any group against any other group.
I suppose this balances out all that Gay on Christian violence I've read about over the years.... oh wait

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