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cavediver
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Message 6 of 15 (240014)
09-02-2005 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by randman
09-01-2005 1:26 AM


Gonzalez believes conditions are so strict for habitability that complex life does not exist in the Milky Way galaxy other than on Earth. He says he wouldn't be surprised if we are alone in the universe
I can sympathise with that position. I expressed similar sentiments in my thread dealing with the possibility of other civilisations. BUT this does not lead to an ID conclusion. The most simple Weak Anthropic argument knocks this on the head, and everyone else knows this. To suggest that this points to an IDer is weak science at best, and not worthy of consideration. This is worse than evolutionary ID. Here the mechanisms are known and he is simply appealling to low probability events "requiring" an ID origin.
In my faith there is design in the universe: it is the fact that there is a universe and it is glorious. God does not have to tinker with it for it to behave in the way he designed...

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cavediver
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Message 11 of 15 (240344)
09-04-2005 5:22 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by DominionSeraph
09-04-2005 2:12 AM


The standard way of expressing surprise at this "cosmic coincidence" is "why is the apparent size of the Moon and the Sun the same?" Anthropic considerations have then looked for a conenction between this and the life-promoting features of the Earth.

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cavediver
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Message 13 of 15 (240385)
09-04-2005 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Chiroptera
09-04-2005 12:35 PM


Was it Adams or Pratchett that said "1 in a million probabilities happen 9 times out of 10"
I don't think anyone in ID has been in either of our statistic classes!

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