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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
randman writes:
The topic was the accuracy of published research reports. As best I can tell, the study was mainly based on research using statistical hypothesis testing, such as is common in the social sciences and pharmacology. As such, everything in my post was on-topic, but admittedly embarassing for evos, and so Nosey bans me ostensibly for being off-topic. You seemed to be using it as an excuse to attack evolutionists. It sure seemed off topic to me. However, I apologize for responding to that post. I hadn't noticed that you would be unable to reply.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4920 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Adminjar demanded to know the relevance of the article, which therefore necessitated a response specific to the Theory of Evolution and the debate thereof. So I showed where initial or scant studies and papers were jumped on as gospel truth among evos and touted that way to the world, and then to make sure I backed up my claims I used several specific examples of where that happened.
He and the mods know that, or should, that I was answering jar's demand. They are smart enough to see that I was responding to their requests, and yet they banned me for providing the specific and detailed type of responses they asked for. My conclusion is they didn't like the response not because it was against the rules, but because the argument was so accurate they could not answer it rationally. Edit to add: I even clearly referenced jar's comments and asked why they were allowed to stand to preface my comments. So what we have here is selective rules-enforcement by the mods. They demand answers that they consider off-topic and then ban me for answering their off-topic demands. This message has been edited by randman, 09-02-2005 05:21 PM This message has been edited by randman, 09-02-2005 05:26 PM
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Admin Director Posts: 13017 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.8 |
Hi Randman,
If you really believe that site moderators favor evolutionists by allowing them to get away with behavior not permitted Creationists, and by pestering Creationists who protest such treatment with curtailment of posting privileges, then there is nothing for you to do but move on. But if you would like to take the moderator feedback to heart and begin participating in a constructive manner that allows discussions to move forward then you'll soon find your posting privileges restored. It is all really up to you.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4920 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Adminjar demanded to know the relevance of the topic and did so in an insulting manner.
Highly likely it is true but... so what? What is there here to discuss? How is my response to this not appropiate. This is an evo/creationist/ID discussion forum, right? So I would need to show how this topic has relevance to the forum, and I did that, quite well imo. I specified a general principle of jumping the gun based on one or few studies, and then gave a list of specific, detailed examples of where that had happened, where false concepts largely no abandoned by evos were once touted by not waiting for more papers and studies to verify the claims. One of those examples have been challenged. The rest to date have not been, but honestly I did not expect anyone to challenge things like the Neanderthal and Haeckel examples, and went on to explain how this issue could be germane in genetics and paleontology. You tell me. How should one answer adminjar's demands replete with unsubstantiated insults without referencing the things which I did? I am continuing to post to perhaps enable some sort of self-recognition on your and the other mods' part that your behaviour is inconsistent and wrong, and to consider that continually banning critics of evolution here while pretending they are the ones being unreasonable is perhaps not so much that they are unreasonable, but something wrong with your sense of fairness and logic. My reason for doing this is to move the conversation forward, but as long as incredible insults, totally unfounded such as jar's are lobbied at critics like myself and not censured, and then when one answers with a total factual post showing a clear pattern and linking that pattern to the OP topic, and THUS SHOWING THE RELEVANCE, well, then you are not going to have anything more than an intellectualized evo circle-jerk here at the forum BECAUSE THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, but rather evos making unfounded claims, unreasonable demands, and then banning any critics who dare stand up to such. There's a reason you don't see too many anti-evos posting here, and it's not because they are unreasonable, unintelligent, etc,...That's wishful and deluded thinking on some folk's part here. This message has been edited by randman, 09-02-2005 05:55 PM
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Admin Director Posts: 13017 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.8 |
Hi Randman,
Moderators are busy people doing the best they can in the time available. I'm sorry you're unhappy with the way the site is managed, but I've responded to you a number of times giving you the bottom line. Since you've decided to not accept the suggestions but instead to continue sopping up moderator time, your posting privileges are completely and permanently suspended.
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wj Inactive Member |
Feel the hypocrisy. Randman raises questions of evolutionists which they are unable to answer truthfully and then they call on moderators to lock randman out so that the dishonesty and propoganda of evolution can be protected. Its all a conspiracy against randman and the truth (interchangeable terms). And there should be more transitional fossils. There are no transitional forms. The fossil record is complete, all the fossils have been found. Pakicetus was not a whale!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missing him already.
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I probably shouldn't be posting here, so I'll keep this short (and I won't debate it further).
wj writes:
Randman's questions have been answered many times. Yet he kept bringing them up, and ignoring the answers already given. Often he brought them up in threads where they were off-topic.
Randman raises questions of evolutionists which they are unable to answer truthfully and then they call on moderators to lock randman out so that the dishonesty and propoganda of evolution can be protected.
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wj Inactive Member |
Who said yanks were sarcasm challenged?
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3797 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
Naw, we just take everything literally.
This message has been edited by DBlevins, 09-04-2005 07:25 AM
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wj Inactive Member |
Adminben's indefinite suspension of Omnivorous is excessive.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
what exactly did he do? (adminben, a link would be nice...)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
http://EvC Forum: Hurricane Katrina -->EvC Forum: Hurricane Katrina
Omnivorous directed some (not undeserved) abuse against Faith. And, by my reading, asked to be banned. This message has been edited by PaulK, 09-05-2005 07:40 AM
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
oh, i see. yeah, that would do it.
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Michael Member (Idle past 4659 days) Posts: 199 From: USA Joined: |
Message 273 of the Katrina Hurrican thread.
His/her response to Faith was way over the top--the worst I've seen from anyone here. IMO, the suspension is more than justified.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
(no further comment)
This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 09-05-2005 07:58 AM
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