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Author Topic:   Help Lizard Breath Save Bush from Hurricane Katrina
Lizard Breath
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Message 6 of 205 (240830)
09-06-2005 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
09-06-2005 5:08 AM


First Stirrings
I want to see evidence that he ordered his general to draw up plans and that it their fault for having wasted time, or that the task was so onerous, they could not have resources in place within 2-3 days of the hurricane hitting.
From my sphere of influence, we began preping and sealing A/C dedicated to FEMA as early as 30 August. On the 29th, we groomed what we had in advance on our own. On Tuesday the 30th, we sealed 3 aircraft for the missions. The call came in late Wed night on the 31st to be on spot at New Orleans International by 1100 Zulu on Thursday the 1st. This was the earliest that the National Guard could have the runway cleared. They were scrambling to finish as we entered the pattern that Thursday morning.
The National Guard had been on site as early as Monday but the heavy equipment was lagging by at least 36 hours due to logistics in getting in to the SZ. I'm not for sure but it seemed their was confusion at the state level as to where to stage and clear. I'm not sure what heavy equipment was needed because I did not observe much debris at the site, but the runway and ramp did need to be swept for FOD hazards. Maybe that's what they were waiting for. I don't know. There were some busted light poles and such from what I seen. Quite possible that the heavy equipment was used to make a path to the airport so the evacuees could get there.
The first flights in were caious. Several planes were bum rushed and order basically broke down. By Thursday afternoon, order was firmly established and the airport was buzzing with efficiencey. From the time the Feds took over, to order and progress in the EZ was less than 8 hours. Pretty good for Bush once he was allowed to take the field. Tangible progress as guaged by Rivera at the Superdome took several days longer to be reported, but once we had a foothold, the evacuation and rescue escalated rapidly.
By Thursday afternoon, we had enough support moved in to keep 325 helicopters fueled and serviced to remain operating 16 hours a day over the city. That is monumental even in a non disaster zone. Plus ATC up to handle evac fixed wings.
This message has been edited by Lizard Breath, 09-06-2005 02:31 PM

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Lizard Breath
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Message 7 of 205 (240878)
09-06-2005 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Silent H
09-06-2005 10:07 AM


Re: Bush isn't totally to blame, but he is the main man.
Same for me. I think that is a sign of true leadership, which of course suggests why I have been repeatedly disappointed by this president. He has pointed to anyone but himself, which makes me ask what I think is the next obvious question... why do we need him?
Bush said today that he is going to establish a review of what happened and find out what went right and what went wrong. He will probably find the answers and make 2nd half adjustments.

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Lizard Breath
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Message 50 of 205 (241251)
09-08-2005 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Yaro
09-07-2005 11:31 AM


The Plan
This was predicted 8 years ago! the question is, why wasn't there a plan?
The plan was lower taxes as created by George Bush which stimulated the economy, allowing more opportunity for NO residents to elevate their econmic circumstances and help themselves.

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Lizard Breath
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Posts: 376
Joined: 10-19-2003


Message 78 of 205 (241294)
09-08-2005 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Yaro
09-08-2005 10:20 AM


Re: The Plan
Further, maybe if we had BETTER EDUCATION and actually taught SAFE SEX, we would have less people getting pregnant out of wedlock and more people getting good jobs.
Falacy. Teaching any kind of Sex, even Safe does nothing to reduce pregnacies. What is does accomplish is reinforce the curiosity factor in youth and add a sence of legitimacy to sex out of weddlock. This has been known for years and is used effectivly in schools to seduce young minds into participating in this type of socially destructive behavior.
The only way to reduce pregnancies out of weddlock is to teach abstinance until marriage and then committed monogamy. To be taken seriously, it must be backed up with moral absolutes dictated by a source outside of the human dimension.

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Lizard Breath
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Posts: 376
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Message 106 of 205 (241439)
09-08-2005 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Yaro
09-08-2005 1:07 PM


Re: The Plan
Seriously, not everyone shares the same views on sex. Some people are legitemetly curious and want to try it. It's not necisseraly a bad thing either, I don't belive that the only "good" sex is within marriage.
What is legitemetly curious? We all have hormones and sex drives. That's undeniable. But with the drive goes responsibility. As far as sex only being good in marriage is false. If sex wasn't good outside of marriage, nobody would be adulterating or fornucating. What is over looked is the emotional sequence in favor of the imidiate physical gratification.
It's the emotional toll of promiscuity that is the hidden demon in this behavior and is also what the liberal adgenda tries to whitewash. You cannot have sex with someone without some type of emotional bonding taking place. And if the emotional bonding is extremely superficial and temporary, when it blows away, a scar is left just like when a scab is torn from flesh. The result is surface scaring of the soul. If you enguage in this long enough, what is left is almost too callous to be able to experience the true sensations of honest unselfish emotional gratification of a relationship reinforced with sexual contact. All that's left is the sex act with animalistic physical satisfaction.
If the promiscuity is much less, and with fewer partners but for longer stints, the result is like a tree that is transplanted every year or two and then violently ripped up by the roots. The scaring of the soul is much deeper and leaves great rifts in the emotional bank account, which doesn't allow the individual to properly reciprocate emotionally in a meaningful committed marriage. So years after marriage, these college coed genius's who "Experimented and Co-habitated" with each other have serious emotional toxic sewage rising to the surface and scars the emotional landscape of the marriage.
So you can only imagine the emotional train wrecks out there who have chossen the combination platter of these sexual practices.
It's like you are building your marriage on a toxic landfill of emotional dumpings that are buried and unresolved but surface to affect the partner who arrived long after the "Legitimate Curiosity" was spent on all the others.

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Lizard Breath
Member (Idle past 6723 days)
Posts: 376
Joined: 10-19-2003


Message 109 of 205 (241458)
09-08-2005 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Yaro
09-08-2005 4:47 PM


Re: The Plan
Roger that.

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