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robinrohan
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Message 34 of 297 (240579)
09-05-2005 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by arachnophilia
09-05-2005 7:31 AM


the unpredictability of tropical weather
hurricanes are predictable disasters
They are predictable in the sense that we know ahead of time if one is coming, but they are very unpredictable in regards to the damage they do. There have been hurricanes that did much less damage than we thought they would, and then there are other storms that did much more.
Here's an example. A few years ago a little tropical storm called Allison moved into Houston. It was nothing--a little rain and wind. It moved through and headed North and then stopped. By now it was not even a tropical storm any more--just a "remnant."
Then it came back, over night. Nobody paid much attention. 20 inches of rain, 50,000 homes and businesses flooded, 25 dead. Over a billion dollars of damage.
I've had people tell me--who don't live in places where there are tropical storms--that hurricanes were "overrated." I guess they won't be saying that anymore.

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robinrohan
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Message 52 of 297 (240665)
09-05-2005 6:31 PM
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09-05-2005 3:16 PM


Re: the unpredictability of tropical weather
Yes, but the massive damage to Miss.--not expected.

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robinrohan
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Message 122 of 297 (241510)
09-08-2005 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by jar
09-07-2005 12:54 PM


Re: Reality vs Belief based
We did not prepare for Katrina because belief. Folk believed it was too expensive to prepare for a 300 year storm.
This comment seems a little unfair to me. The damage caused by tropical weather is too unpredictable.
There are some things one cannnot prepare for.

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robinrohan
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Message 124 of 297 (241518)
09-08-2005 9:09 PM
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09-08-2005 8:55 PM


Re: Reality vs Belief based
Are you seriously saying that having such a contingency plan sitting on the shelf and updated every couple years is beyond reasonable consideration?
I don't know what sort of "plan" we could have. Do we have a plan that matters for the "big one" in California?
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robinrohan
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Message 126 of 297 (241522)
09-08-2005 9:19 PM
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09-08-2005 9:15 PM


Re: Reality vs Belief based
If you knew there might be 1-2 million refugees, what would be the first item YOU would put on the list?
There's not too much one can do BEFORE it happens. Now I agree that the response was unacceptable, but I don't know that some plan way beforehand would have helped.
It's not like we can have a thousand buses just hanging about on the offchance that something might happen.

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robinrohan
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Message 128 of 297 (241528)
09-08-2005 10:04 PM
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09-08-2005 9:29 PM


Re: Reality vs Belief based
But what can we do?
Not a lot ahead of time.
And I might add, even in regard to the levees, I find it a bit unfair to blame people for a lack of prescience.

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