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Author Topic:   where was the transition within fossil record?? [Stalled: randman]
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Message 15 of 304 (245182)
09-20-2005 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Eledhan
09-20-2005 12:45 PM


And I also cannot believe that the link posted showing the reptile-to-bird transitions actually included Archaeopterix (sp?). That was proven false years ago!!! Some Chinese farmer dug up a fossil and glued a piece onto it and sold it to National Geographic for thousands of dollars!!!
It wasn't Archaeopteryx, which has been know for quite a long time. It was the purported Archeoraptor that was a fake.

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Message 22 of 304 (245192)
09-20-2005 1:28 PM
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09-20-2005 1:24 PM


Are you telling me that evolution doesn't require that one species become another one in order to get all the different species that we observe today?
One species begatting another yes.
I'm talking about a completely different type of organism, or a significant transition between two organisms.
A cat giving birth to a dog, bird hatching a mammal, organism A giving birth to completely different organism B no.

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Message 26 of 304 (245197)
09-20-2005 1:35 PM
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09-20-2005 1:32 PM


So, you think that a horse could give birth to a zebra, even if it does not mate with a zebra?
nope. A horse giving bith to something slightly less horse and slightly more zebra, this continues one until eventually a descendant of the original horse species is what we recognize as the zebra species.
nwr's post above explains it better than I can.
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Message 128 of 304 (253461)
10-20-2005 3:57 PM
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10-20-2005 3:46 PM


Re: Population genetics
Species 2-999 (small populations, yes, in time) appearing in rapid succession. Rapid (geologically speaking) periods of evolution with long periods of stasis in between. No wonder we don't see the transitional species 2-999 in the fossil record.
And species 2 may only differ from species 1 in a feature that doesn't fossilize. A change in an organ or other soft tissue.

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