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Author Topic:   Asexual to sexual reproduction? How?
Wounded King
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Message 16 of 78 (245750)
09-22-2005 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Eledhan
09-22-2005 9:37 AM


Re: What?
You still must show how Natural Selection suddenly stops selecting, and then, continues selecting organisms further down the road.
An obvious explanation is that it doesn't, but what it selects for may vary over time. Some organisms routinely reproduce asexually but will reproduce sexually in response to an environmental stress.
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WK

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Wounded King
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Message 31 of 78 (365629)
11-23-2006 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Hyroglyphx
11-23-2006 4:10 PM


Re: Difficult to resolve
The prevailing theory about evolution asserts that simple organisms first proliferated by asexual reproduction -- a self-replicator. Why then would nature select new organisms that had to mate, one male, and one female in order to do that which is much more difficult to achieve, as far as survival is concerned, if nature, in fact, selects the most optimal organism?
Maybe you should read through the thread first NJ. If you already have and this is what you come up with then I fear you failed to understand a lot of it.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 38 of 78 (365730)
11-24-2006 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Hyroglyphx
11-24-2006 11:00 AM


I have asked the question why nature would have selected sex over asexual reproduction.
You make this sound as if it was an absolute and final decision. There are really only a small proportion of organisms which are obligately sexual and a smaller number that have 2 distinct sexes.
Natural selection will favour different strategies in different environments. While a sexual strategy may be preferable in some circumstances an asexual one may be favoured in others.
In a static population there is usually only one offspring per set of parents survives to adulthood.
What on earth is this supposed to mean? In a sexual population obvioudly one offspring per 'set' of parents would give a rate below replacement and lead not to a static population but to a declining one. An asexual population could be static if every organism only had one offspring but only provided none of the offspring ever died.
Your statement seems to have no connection to any population we might actually find in the real world.
From this initial specious assumption you then build a whole fanciful tower of straw.
The answer that I usually get back, is, "Its too costly."
Could you show where anyone on this site has given you that answer, because it is too vague to be useful. It may be true in certain circumstances but it obviously isn't in all or we would not see the vast umbers of asexually reproducing organisms that we do.
How much easier is binary fission than developing two separate sex organs that has to go through a lot of things just to mate.
You do realise that not all asexually reproducing organisms are unicellular I hope, binary fission is not the only form of asexual reproduction.
TTFN,
WK

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