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Message 286 of 297 (245612)
09-21-2005 10:14 PM

Reply to: Message 284 by gene90
09-21-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Some more points ...

Could be.

Right, though, barrier islands are ephemeral. And some of them are mobile

Which makes them wonderful national resources to enjoy in good weather, in their natural wildness prefereably (imho), but lousy places to build homes and businesses.

I give them 5 years

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Message 287 of 297 (246101)
09-24-2005 11:19 AM

It's about having a plan ...

CNN\Netscape News - Refiners Applying Katrina Lessons to Rita (click)

"We are about two or three days ahead of where we were with Katrina," said Mary Rose Brown, spokeswoman for San Antonio-based Valero.

"RVs are rented and ready to go; trucks are packed and ready; we have generators ready; and we've sent refinery managers cash that way we can get it to employees affected," she said.

They didn't have a plan for loss of communication???

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Message 289 of 297 (246662)
09-26-2005 8:39 PM

Reply to: Message 288 by crashfrog
09-26-2005 8:34 PM

Re: Brownie floats back to the top - like scum in a polluted pond

If anyone needs confirmation that the botch administration is incompetent, this is it.

From the link:

CBS News correspondent Gloria Borger reports that Michael Brown, who recently resigned as the head of the FEMA, has been rehired by the agency as a consultant to evaluate it's response following Hurricane Katrina.

So we are going to have someone who was too incompetent to know what to do, study what went wrong?

Is this where he gets his medal?

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Message 291 of 297 (246789)
09-27-2005 6:29 PM

Reply to: Message 290 by crashfrog
09-26-2005 9:09 PM

Brownie deliberates long to find answers

This just in:

"It was everybody's fault but mine" -- Brownie

FROM: Former FEMA Head Blames Others for Hurricane Response Problems (click)

Former FEMA Director Michael Brown today blamed much of what went wrong with the government's response to Hurricane Katrina on Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, telling a House committee that the key elected officials were "dysfunctional" as the hurricane bore down on New Orleans.

In stark contrast to his performance.

AND:

FROM: Brown Shifts Blame for Katrina Response (click)

Brown also said that in the days before the storm, he expressed his concerns that ``this is going to be a bad one'' in phone conversations and e-mails with President Bush, White House chief of staff Andy Card and deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin.

And he blamed the Department of Homeland Security - the parent agency for the Federal Emergency Management Agency - for not acquiring better equipment ahead of the storm.

Let's see that's everyone below and everyone above ... think anyone noticed?

"I'm happy you left," said Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn. "That kind of look in the lights like a deer tells me you weren't capable of doing that job."

Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., told Brown: "The disconnect was, people thought there was some federal expertise out there. There wasn't. Not from you."

So, somebody tell me again ... why was this guy hired as a consultant to look into the mistakes in handling these siturations?

Is their thinking really just so incompetent that they don't see it?

btw: Gene Taylor, good man, also lives in Pascagoula (I did shake his hand when I lived there), but we didn't hear about his house ... perhaps because he lives in a more protected area?

Enjoy.

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Message 294 of 297 (247101)
09-28-2005 9:45 PM

Reply to: Message 292 by Omnivorous
09-27-2005 7:49 PM

Re: Brownie deliberates long to find answers

and people are beginning to look at the money trail.

Conservatives (the real kind) are beginning to question where it is going with so little effect.

People can tend to ignore the dissappearance of large sums of money in the Iraq Inversion, because they are not familiar with the day to day operations over there (and most don't want to know)

But when it is here at home, suddenly it becomes apparent that we are not getting value for money.

Then they begin to look at the bigger picture.

Only 400 turned out for a pro-bush ralley to counter the sheehan peace ralley in DC ... that's 400/297,291,184 = 0.00013%

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Message 296 of 297 (247118)
09-28-2005 10:42 PM

Reply to: Message 295 by nator
09-28-2005 10:17 PM

Re: Tal, how much are you going to contribute?

Last week, the number of US troops killed in Iraq rose above 1,900.

Any bets that before this administration is finished that more americans will have been killed due to the botch administration invasion of iraq than is due to terrorist attacks outside iraq on americans in the same period?

completely discounting all those innocents killed in iraq?

Who's a bigger threat to common people?

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