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Author Topic:   Judges 19 - Sickest story in the bible
christ_fanatic
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Message 21 of 120 (248615)
10-03-2005 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by berberry
09-08-2005 10:06 PM


Re: Good Question
You may want to reread Genesis 19. Lot's daughters are the one's who got him so drunk that he didn't know they were in his bed, but you could still put the blame on him for getting drunk in the first place. Besides, just because the Bible reports something doesn't mean that it approves of it. Please tell me where Paul refers to Lot as righteous, I can't remember where he does.
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christ_fanatic
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Message 22 of 120 (248616)
10-03-2005 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by mark24
09-22-2005 3:06 PM


It's a simple solution if you think about it.
Eventually, every nation falls, and you have to remember this, those that God smote were more wicked than we can probably begin to imagine. The worst in our societies were probably the ones that the people in the nations would have called sissy. We could take a quick look at the Assyrians for an example.

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christ_fanatic
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Message 23 of 120 (248618)
10-03-2005 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Stranger
09-27-2005 11:34 PM


God's ways are not ours.
"Why does god not do this now?" You ask. The best answer I can give is that God will judge when He judges all. This way, all that victims of the evils that have been committed can see the one who committed it get their dues.
"Why are we spared?" Who says we will be. We will all be judged at the Judgement Seat of Christ (for the believers) or at the Great White Throne Judgement (for the unbelievers), so any way we look at it, we will get what we deserve.

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christ_fanatic
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Message 25 of 120 (248639)
10-03-2005 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by CK
09-09-2005 5:44 AM


God doesn't kill little children.
I see you are probably using the KJV, what the Bible makes mention to as "youths" is very likely what we would call a gang. Otherwise, why would Elisha feel his life was in danger and ask God for help?

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christ_fanatic
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Message 70 of 120 (252527)
10-17-2005 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Funkaloyd
10-12-2005 9:34 AM


Re: God doesn't kill little children.
We're starting to get off track here, but I see your point. I heard a guy, no clue who, say that the more you behave a certain way, the less likely you will do anything contrary to that behavior. So the more God acts according to His standards, the less likely He will do anything contrary to it. Since He is eternal, and He said that He never changes, it's safe to say that He never does anything unrighteous. To the thought of a higher standard, the Christian God would no longer be the One and Only, automatically making Him a liar, and monotheism a farce. There is no logical way to overcome that idea, if you want to say that there is a higher standard than God.
But I got 2 other points to make: First, in my analysis of the story about Elisha on his way to Mt. Carmel, I made a couple mistakes. I trusted so callled scholars from Lee Strobel's Case for Faith, and I had forgotten the importance of what the "youths" were doing. They were insulting Elisha's prophethood, and Elisha must have gotten seriously ticked, because when they insulted him, they also insulted the One who appointed him (God). About Lot, he was called righteous, but no one in the OT would have been (nor did any of them claim to be) perfect. Its the old "we're all human" argument
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