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Author Topic:   Why must we believe *before* we die?
jar
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Message 282 of 302 (251191)
10-12-2005 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by iano
10-12-2005 2:40 PM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
By the way, would you agree to keep this tied to this one thread instead of bouncing back and forth between threads?
Okay. I was not thinking in terms of compromise or discussion even though the Bible clearly shows that he is. Consider the negotiations on how many good men to find in the city.
Let me try rewording.
Do you think God is stupid?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 286 of 302 (251421)
10-13-2005 11:10 AM
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10-13-2005 7:54 AM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
Okay.
Is God vainglorious?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 288 of 302 (251442)
10-13-2005 12:20 PM
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10-13-2005 12:16 PM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
Okay, so far God is not stupid and not vainglorious.
If those are true, why would a God set the bar for salvation beyond human capabilities or require folk to worship Her as a prerequisite for salvation?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 291 of 302 (251454)
10-13-2005 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by iano
10-13-2005 1:19 PM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
That is certainly one point of view.
But again it presupposes that GOD has some need, some urge, for mere humans to realize that they can only be saved by GOD's actions.
Why?
Why would GOD have a need such as that? Is GOD so vainglorious that he needs some confirmation of his might and position?
I don't believe so.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 293 of 302 (251457)
10-13-2005 1:41 PM
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10-13-2005 1:23 PM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
Again, I can only speak from my personal prospective.
I believe that Jesus life was the biggest sacrifice if we're talking along those lines. And it's a message, a telegram.
I believe GOD did let mankind off, with NO conditions, that Salvation is freely granted to all.
But we're not all that bright on the whole. GOD is still trying to find ways for us to get the message.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 295 of 302 (251464)
10-13-2005 1:56 PM
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10-13-2005 1:46 PM


Re: Everybody saved, 'cept maybe Christians
Not familar with that one. But Biblical tradition considers Satan as but one tool of GOD and that Satan serves only GOD's purposes.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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