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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Oh, definitely c. I've felt that from the beginning - thanks for providing the proper label. Your talent for breaking down a discussion into component elements is very helpful.
--Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
I was talking about the earth/moon system, but the earth/sun system also orbits a common point. The sun is so much more massive than the earth, more than a million times, that that point is probably well within the sun's surface.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
I was deriding your position, not you. For good examples of arguing the person rather than the position see the Jet Retrospective at Message 20 of the Idiocy of the most amusing kind.... thread.
As Mister Pamboli has already pointed out, and more than once, since you've already professed knowlege of evidence *for* the solar-centric view, then the only way you can claim ignorance of evidence against geocentrism is if the two positions were independent of one another, ie, that both could be true. However, the two positions are contradictory and mutually exclusive. Evidence for one is evidence against the other. What you're doing is a long drawn out exercise in wasting people's time. We're hoping you have some actual point to make at the end of all this. That new format is great, isn't it? I wish I could take credit for thinking of it, but I saw it at some other boards. I'll be adding a UBB code for it sometime soon. --Percy
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 734 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
The earth-sun system can be said to orbit around its barycenter, a point nearly at the middle of the sun:
http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/barycntr.htm The sun is about 330,000 times the mass of the earth, so it's a pretty fair bowling ball to the ping-pong ball that's us. Mr Fortenberry, try Stellar Distances - Parallax to see your first evidence that the geocentric model is false.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Indeedy, this is how the planet seekers go about their business. The star "appears" to wobble about a point within its own volume. The larger & closer the planet, the larger the wobble. The system rotates about it's own center of gravity. Because stars are so massive relative to their planetary systems, that point is feasably always within the star itself. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with. [This message has been edited by mark24, 11-14-2002]
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compmage Member (Idle past 5153 days) Posts: 601 From: South Africa Joined: |
quote: With the exceptions of multiple star systems. ------------------compmage
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 734 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Ooh! Ooh! I've figured out how to make parallax work in a geogentric system! The sun orbits the Earth, once per year. All the stars (at least those within a few hundred light years of us) then just have to describe little circles the size of the Sun's orbit around some nondescript point in space!
Do you folks think this is ad hoc enough to make it onto one of the really good YEC sites, like Walt Brown's?
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: But the planetary orbits are said to be eliptical. This does not fit with your statement that "the earth/sun system also orbits a common point." Can you provide an explanation for the elliptical orbits of the planets?
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Sure, right after you give a straight answer for how you could possibly be ignorant of so much common knowledge, and right after you address some of the evidence already presented to you. --Percy
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: I have not claimed such ignorance.
quote: You have presented the evidence of orbital mechanics. My question directly adresses that evidence. Please provide an explanation for the eliptical orbits of the planets.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: All orbits are eliptical (apart from parabolic and hyperbolic ones at any rate) even circular ones which are just special cases of elliptical orbits where e = 0.... And the point orbited around is one of the focus points of the ellipse, termed the principle focus in the case of orbiting bodies...
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 734 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
quote: Oh please... Kepler and Newton put this in bed about three centuries ago! That's how everything orbits!
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 734 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Has this factoid from the Bible come up yet?
Leviticus chapters 13 and 14 go into considerable detail on the detection and cure of leprosy. Lev 13:49 and 14:37, in particular, describe cloth and houses that "have the plague:" it causes a reddish or greenish color in the fabric or the plaster. Has Mycobacterium leprae ever been grown in culture, on cloth, plaster, or even agar-agar, and shown to cause "hollow strakes, greenish or reddish?" And has sprinkling of bird blood in an earthern vessel over running water been subjected to double-blind studies for treatment of leprosy? |
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w_fortenberry Member (Idle past 6107 days) Posts: 178 From: Birmingham, AL, USA Joined: |
quote: quote: This is not in agreement with Percipient's formula of orbital mechanics. What causes all orbits to form elipses? What causes an eccentricity greater than zero?
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: It is... Try this explanation Object not found! Look through all 3 sections and then work through the math yourself... [This message has been edited by joz, 12-04-2002]
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