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Author Topic:   General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consecution
AdminBen
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Message 235 of 300 (251890)
10-15-2005 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by robinrohan
10-14-2005 11:54 PM


Re: Reply to robinrohan
What I am saying is that this progression we went through is natural and that I was not the only one who was discussing these matters. But I was the only one who got called out on it. Why? Because I had offended you, that's why. Not that I blame you for that.
Let's be adults. When I tell you something, please don't ignore me. I told you I wasn't offended. Period.
And I'm not "calling you out." It's not my job to "keep people in line." It's my job to keep things in order, and guide people in the right direction, and to make this place as accessible to as many people as possible. We're adults. "Calling out" is for playskool.
I made the comment to you because it was your topic. Your comments, your questions, your progression. It's a small thing, robin. I wasn't about to ping all the posts to stop things from going off topic. This should be a 2 minute deal. Take the suggestion, go open up the topic. It's up to 70 minutes. Let it be. Admins make suggestions. We try to make resources available to users. That's it.
Also, this particular bit of "off-topic" discussion was occasioned by my sense of unfairness against Faith--so that was a special case.
I didn't say a word while things were even tangentially related to the topic or what was going on with Faith. I came around when the discussion turned to a useful, interesting topic that made a lot of sense to be put somewhere else.
AbE: Changing to admin mode... feeling Clark Kent-ish here; where's my TELEPHONE BOOTH.
This message has been edited by AdminBen, Friday, 2005/10/14 09:04 PM

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    AdminBen
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    Message 237 of 300 (251895)
    10-15-2005 12:26 AM
    Reply to: Message 236 by robinrohan
    10-15-2005 12:20 AM


    Re: Reply to robinrohan
    I didn't say a word while things were even tangentially related to the topic or what was going on with Faith. I came around when the discussion turned to a useful, interesting topic that made a lot of sense to be put somewhere else.
    Sorry, I didn't re-read this before I posted. I didn't mean to imply that the discussion before was not useful or interesting. Only that the new material was especially so.
    i certainly wouldn't want to imply that about Faith. I have a lot of respect for the time and effort that she put in, and am very concerned about the way things turned out with her. It is my view that there's something broken in this system, and I'm working on ideas on how to fix it. Well really, I have the ideas... I just have to work on articulating the reasoning behind the ideas. I'm not a good or convincing writer.
    I think you have a pretty good nose for what is fair and for when things are broken. I hope when I make suggestions on how things might change for the better, that you take the time to give feedback. I would greatly appreciate that.
    Not sure when that's going to happen though. Hopefully I'll get something out to the admins in a week or so.
    AbE: Change to admin mode... AGAIN.
    This message has been edited by AdminBen, Friday, 2005/10/14 09:27 PM

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    AdminBen
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    Message 269 of 300 (257349)
    11-06-2005 7:21 PM
    Reply to: Message 268 by AdminNosy
    11-06-2005 7:12 PM


    Opening new threads
    I also wanted to reiterate an earlier point that I made in this thread: by spinning off a new thread, you open up what was a side-discussion hidden within a thread to a broader audience. And it makes things 1000 times easier for people who are interested in a specific subject.
    Open new threads. Don't be shy!

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    AdminBen
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    Message 271 of 300 (257367)
    11-06-2005 9:01 PM
    Reply to: Message 270 by RAZD
    11-06-2005 8:50 PM


    Re: Opening new threads
    Perhaps admins could copy the relevant posts and move the discussion to set it up rather than close down the OT posts? (trying to keep work to a min by combining activity of OT monitoring with PNT oversight)
    I like the line of thinking, but all suggesitons have to work within current software capabilities. And this we can't do.
    I'll keep fighting for certain members to get permissions to start topics without going through PNT. Maybe a "side order" forum like you specified is a good idea for that; maybe admins can also move threads from there to "proper" areas as time permits, but allow people to continue discussion unimpeded.
    I'll bring it up soon in the PAF. Lots of issues we're working through...
    Thanks for the suggestion.
    Ben
    AbE: adminmode=good
    This message has been edited by AdminBen, Sunday, 2005/11/06 06:02 PM

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