Message 27 of 238 (25333)
12-03-2002 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Ten-sai
12-01-2002 8:09 AM
Emphasis added. To show the inconsistencies of your beliefs. Soooo, if you sincerely believe (NOT!!) people have "the right to live and believe as they wish," you have outed yourself as a HYPOCRITE in the highest order! Congratulations. Are you one of those feminazis?
M: In addition to your extremely limited intellect it is not unexpected that you show the other fundie quality of a profound fear of women.
Hopefully, you aren't one of the people brainwashing little children in public schools by telling them their parents lied to them about the Bible's creation accounts (or Koran or Torah) and "GOD didn't creat YOU, fool!
M: As opposed to those who brain wash children into saying that god did this or that without any evidence? Interesting that you included the Torah and Koran..do you teach children the truths of those works as well? Do you preach the koran...and why did you exclude the Vedas? or Native American creation myths? Or Greek mythology?
Let's see you propose a
hypothesis of creation that is
Hint for the layperson laywer..you can't.
You were created from a swirling dust ball which collapsed on itself into a molten rock where ALL life came from." Such violates the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in a most egregious manner. The irony is that the 1st Amendment is consistent with your above stated belief.
M: Well, thankfully evolution is not abiogenesis and thankfully nobody who studies abiogenesis proposes a "swirling dustball" as the origin of life. You might actually want to inform yourself on the subjects you are opposed to...otherwise your civil case will not only be a profound defeat for you personally, but a huge farce.
For the record, I don't care if you believe like me, or what you believe. I assume you are an adult and can think for yourself. How about allowing others to do the same when it comes to opining on the ultimate question of life? Unless you've been hiding your evidence of abiogenesis? Perhaps following your own advice would be advisable under the circumstances...
M: Can you actually show that abiogenesis is taught in school or taught in school as a fact? Evolution is covered (sometimes) but abiogenesis rarely.
I guess you should sue the schools also for teaching geography and that the world is round rather than flat as you are forced to accept?
Among other things, aren't you one of the many who falsely proclaim that there are valid logical principles like "the God of the gaps fallacy" and "abiogenesis is illogical to evolution"????????
M: Demonstrate that the "god of the gaps" is a fallacy. If you have read Darwin (you clearly have not or you are too limited to undestand what he actually wrote) then you would not have to ask why abiogenesis and evolution are two separate topics. I take from your multitude of question marks that you are seriously confused.
Because those are LIES, and no less so even if you believe them. Folks, there is NO SUCH THING as a "God of the gaps fallacy" -- it is not contained in any known existing logical paradigm. Don't believe me? How about a "peer-reviewed" resource on the logic behind "the God of the gaps fallacy"??? It doesn't exist.
M: Why would there be a peer reviewed article on why the gaps argument is intellectually void? That a laywer with no background in science claim that ALL science is lying hardly bears much weight. Contrary to your personal belief, you are irrelevant to science and as a laywer you are professionally irrelevant to the search for the truth.
Only a person shamelessly insecure about their own beliefs in God would make such a statement and brainwash children into believing the same. Again, you are a hypocrite and have ZERO credibility. Shame on you!
M: As opposed to all the credibility you have?
Finally, abiogenesis IS the logical imperative of evolution!!!!!!!
M: Up the dosage of your sedative there big boy...take deep breathe and remove the finger from the exclamation point and shift key..there, feel better? Darwin did not say how life began, his theory covers how it developed subsequently. The origin of SPECIES..not the origin of life. That you cannot grasp that says more about the limitations of your intellect and logical abilities than anyone elses.
TS: Believe they are irrelevant to eachother if you want, but it is YOU who are being illogical one here and have absolutely NO evidence for the foundation of your belief in evolution.
M: Except all the supporting data from multiple different scientific fields. I am sure you have read all of it and base your objections on a thorough knowledge of the subject you oppose
Or maybe you can give us a peer-reviewed article i've been asking for ad naseum on the "logical irrelevance of abiogenesis to evolution"?
M: Try reading the Origin of Species and figure it out yourself like most people with half a brain have been able to.
Or, since one does not exist, you can be the first to take a stab at it and WE will peer review it right here!!
M: Well, before "we" peer review it let's see if you have any academic credentials...let's see you demonstrate non-random mutation or genomic imprinting of the H19 locus using your profound legal knowledge. It should be easy if you are such an authority on all things scientific.
Here is your chance to demonstrate your command over logic and make a fool out of anyone who doesn't believe exactly as YOU do. Hypocrite.
M: Your post to schrafinator made a fool out of you already..anything further would be redundant.
How disappointing TS...I thought you might bring a novel angle to creationist arguments against evolution with your legal angle. Instead, you are a below average fundie ranter who has absolutely no idea about science and especially evolutionary biology.
But congratulations on being banned faster than anyone else I have seen on this board...you must be proud of your achievement.
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