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Message 12 of 157 (194278)
03-24-2005 11:55 PM
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03-24-2005 11:44 PM


Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
not necessarily.
that spontaneous generation bit about the origin of life is not really part of evolution. evolution is the biological process by which living things become other living things. spontaneous generation is chemistry and not necessary to the theory. it is a separate idea. however. non-living things do participate in chemical reactions and can become entirely different non-living things. the only question here is did a non-living thing ever become living and how. but then. what is it that really makes us living because we are reducible to mere chemical reactions. so what makes us different. in fact, are we?
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Message 18 of 157 (194300)
03-25-2005 12:44 AM
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Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
no, it doesn't. look it up.

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Message 22 of 157 (194396)
03-25-2005 9:44 AM
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Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
spontaneous generation is not part of evolution any more than the big bang is. it's a separate theory which uneducated people squish together because they have to have a single all-encompassing theory to disprove.

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Message 28 of 157 (194511)
03-25-2005 6:51 PM
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03-25-2005 11:23 AM


Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
that would be why i was responding to him and not to you.
btw. i didn't give a definition for it.

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Message 34 of 157 (194659)
03-26-2005 11:17 AM
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03-25-2005 6:45 PM


Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
that's abiogenesis hon.
and yes evolution covers all those areas but it's not a single unified theory.

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Message 43 of 157 (194752)
03-26-2005 10:59 PM
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Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
you'd like to think that wouldn't you. but see. if you had ever read anything i posted...

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Message 103 of 157 (195588)
03-30-2005 10:52 PM
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Re: Non Living Don't Evolve.
haha it happens.

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Message 121 of 157 (253065)
10-19-2005 1:14 PM
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10-18-2005 9:18 PM


Re: non-living things DO evolve. sort of.
you have a bicycle (a mountain bike preferably. it's heavier and can put up with more. it's the horse of the bikes. complete with chain, gears, and hand brakes)
you want a motorcycle (an engine powered bicyclid with engine and associated parts and big thick body as sheilding from internal combustion and handbrakes)
easy enough. now this will be guided whereas evolution is not...
bicycle evolves randomly an assistor. i don't know if such a thing exists, but pretend it does. it makes the chain go faster than the pedal would ordinarily push it.
next step. the bicycle advances the assistor to a pedal powered engine. they're on all kinds of toys. natural precedence. they exist.
alright now. one to step three. the oops. a strain of the extra powered pedaled bicycle randomly grows extra sheathing in response to added wind. but it acts as a motion block and the bikes can't go anywhere. they all die.
another strain of bikes grows sheathing in response to the wind and is successful. this gives a bike with a slightly thicker body which is more aerodynamic.
so up to this point bikes feed on the energy produced by a rider's feet on the pedals. so one day a group of bikes are driving through an oil lake and decide that this is a much better fuel source so they buck their riders and come up with a crude combustion to run the engine instead of the pedals.
refine the engine, refine the body build to better withstand the strain of the engine and the wind and you have a motorcycle. with the original handbrakes.

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Message 123 of 157 (253071)
10-19-2005 1:27 PM
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10-19-2005 1:22 PM


Re: Hopefull Monsters
yeah yeah. i was being silly. live a little eh?

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Message 130 of 157 (253240)
10-19-2005 10:51 PM
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10-19-2005 7:37 PM


Re: non-living things DO evolve. sort of.
yeah. i summarized a great deal. but whatever.

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