Asgara writes:
I would think that if the various breeds of dogs were being classified now, and we didn't know that they had been bred from the same stock, that they would probably be classified as different species?
I've often thought the same thing. If someone who had never seen a dog of any kind before were to come across a wide assortment of breeds, would they intuitively think them all to be the same species, or even closely related for that matter? If the breeds they saw covered a significant portion of the spectrum I seriously doubt it.
I did a Google and came across
this page, and I must say, I never realized just how diverse a group the domestic dog is. I knew there were many different breeds, and I knew they came in many shapes and sizes, but damn... I didn't realize just how odd some of them are! Can't say I've ever seen one of
these before. Looks kind of like that brush I use with the dust bin. Honestly, if you'd shown me that photo removed from its context, I'm not even sure I'd have been able to identify it as a dog!
But seriously, why exactly
are domestic dogs still regarded as just one species? From
Wiki's "Canidae" entry, we are shown the following for Genus
Canis...
Coyote,
Canis latransWolf,
Canis lupusDomestic Dog,
Canis lupus familiarisDingo,
Canis lupus dingoRed Wolf,
Canis rufusEthiopian Wolf,
Canis simensisGolden Jackal,
Canis aureusSide-striped Jackal,
Canis adustusBlack-backed jackal,
Canis mesomelas
If you follow the links, most of these have images and, as far as I can tell, there is far,
far more diversity among domestic dog breeds than there is among all of their cousins combined.
Now, I realize that this is largely due to the artificial selection that humans have imposed on them since their domestication, but is their wide morphological diversity not sufficient to classify modern domestic dogs as multiple species (or subspecies) branched from the initial stock?
Is it because their cousins (wolves, coyotes, etc) are further removed from them, in terms of how long ago they branched away, than they are from each other? Or are there, in fact, larger genetic differences, despite their respective appearances? For example, is there actually a greater genetic difference between, say, a
German Shepherd and a
Gray Wolf than there is between a German Shepherd and a
Pekingese?
Or, alternatively, we could amend that slightly from the perspective of species. So, with regard to the relative genetics of the given examples and their respective comparisons, is there a greater difference between, say, a
wolf and a
coyote (which are
different species), than between the aforementioned
German Shepherd and
Pekingese (which are the
same species)?
I realize that I'm just going on photographs and not the living creatures themselves, and, for the record, I
can see differences between the wolf and the coyote... My point is that they seem to have much more in common than many breeds of domestic dog do with each other.
Honestly, I could forgive someone for confusing the animals in those two photos... though, to be fair, they
have captured them in very similar poses; I might think differently if I saw them both up and walking around. Still, I doubt there is any pose or camera angle that could make me mistake a photo of a German shepherd for a photo of a Pekingese, or vice versa.
Something else I've wondered about domestic dogs is whether or not they are all inter-breedable. Obviously, there is the question of the physical practicality of certain couplings, but is it possible to do, even if only in principle? For instance, could you cross, say, a Great Dane with a Chihuahua via artificial insemination? Would it produce viable offspring? And if you could not, or if the offspring were sterile, would this qualify the two breeds as having become significantly diverged to be classified as separate species?
As a slight aside, I was surprised to see that even among "True dogs" there are a multitude of genera. Shows what I know. Clearly, I've been mixing up my levels of classification - specifically Canidae and
Canis. If I understand the page correctly, all dogs are canines but not all dogs are genus
Canis.
Also, the article's distinction between "true dogs" and "foxes" is a noteworthy point, itself. I don't know what the current position of biologists/taxonomists is but, if it helps, the page states the following...
Wiki writes:
Note that the subdivision of Canidae into "foxes" and "true dogs" may not be in accordance with the actual relations, and that the classification of several canines is disputed. Examples include the Domestic Dog which is listed by some authorities as
Canis familiaris and others (including the Smithsonian Institution and the American Society of Mammalogists) as a subspecies of the Wolf (i.e.,
Canis lupus familiaris); the Red Wolf, which may or may not be a full species; and the Dingo, which is variously classified as
Canis lupus dingo,
Canis dingo and
Canis familiaris dingo.
Ouch! I ramble...
This is for anyone, by the way. Asgara simply made the comment that grabbed my attention. All are welcome to answer.