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Author Topic:   General discussion of moderation procedures: The Consecution
robinrohan
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Message 241 of 300 (251899)
10-15-2005 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 240 by nwr
10-15-2005 12:34 AM


Re: Reply to robinrohan
I have been following it, and there was some unnecessary bickering about it being in a science forum.

But here's the point, and this is what occasioned the whole discussion about a "science forum": Did the OP "provide evidence"?

The OP was just a bunch of psychological speculation and never pretended to be anything other than that.

So what's the difference, in terms of evidence, between that and what Faith said?


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nator
Member (Idle past 334 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 242 of 300 (251903)
10-15-2005 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by AdminBen
10-14-2005 8:03 PM


Re: Reply to robinrohan
I'm happy to start a new thread.

In fact I'm going to propose a new topic in the PNT forum shortly.

RR, you can join me once it is promoted.

AbE: Whoops, just noticed that Ben beat me to it. Thanks, Ben.

I have a feeling that Zhimbo will also be happy to join the conversation, as he actualy is a Cognitive scientist.

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Brian
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Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 243 of 300 (252101)
10-16-2005 5:34 AM


Great Job
EvC is fast becoming a joke.

What was once the best discussion board on the Net now has as much credibility as Kent Hovind's P.hd.

Percy's vision was to build a board that encouraged academic discussion, but we are now trawling for people who can barely string a coherent sentence together, plus we want to make one of the nastiest people I have ever met into a an admin!

Brian.


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robinrohan
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Message 244 of 300 (252140)
10-16-2005 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 243 by Brian
10-16-2005 5:34 AM


Re: Great Job
Percy's vision was to build a board that encouraged academic discussion, but we are now trawling for people who can barely string a coherent sentence together, plus we want to make one of the nastiest people I have ever met into a an admin!

In other words, if they don't agree with your basic beliefs, or your temperament, they should not be allowed to post.


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nator
Member (Idle past 334 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 245 of 300 (252142)
10-16-2005 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by arachnophilia
10-13-2005 11:05 PM


Re: Another Opinion on Scientific Discussion with Creationists
quote:
one side is evidently NOT science and doesn't intend to be.

Oh yes they do.

The religious side most certainly does intend to redefine science, to claim science proves theirm correct.


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nator
Member (Idle past 334 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 246 of 300 (252144)
10-16-2005 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by robinrohan
10-16-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Great Job
quote:
In other words, if they don't agree with your basic beliefs, or your temperament, they should not be allowed to post.

No.

I think what Brian feels is that people who show themselves to be incapable of following the Forum guidelines should not be afforded Moderator privilages and responsibilities.


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robinrohan
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Message 247 of 300 (252150)
10-16-2005 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by nator
10-16-2005 10:25 AM


Re: Great Job
people who show themselves to be incapable of following the Forum guidelines should not be afforded Moderator privilages and responsibilities

What guidelines would that be? Like if you are in a science forum, you must provide evidence? That sort of thing?

Taking a look at that "ambiguity" thread, I don't see any "evidence" for the OP. Do you? I see plausible remarks, that's all.


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Brian
Member (Idle past 3124 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 248 of 300 (252258)
10-16-2005 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by robinrohan
10-16-2005 10:08 AM


Re: Great Job
In other words, if they don't agree with your basic beliefs, or your temperament, they should not be allowed to post.

Nothing to do with my basic beliefs and everything to do with forum guidelines .

Brian.


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nwr
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From: Geneva, Illinois
Joined: 08-08-2005


Message 249 of 300 (255539)
10-29-2005 8:02 PM


The RAZD suspension - how long?
The announcement that RAZD is suspended (Message 273) did not list the length.

RAZD's posts contribute a lot to this site, so I hope it will be a short suspension.


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ohnhai
Member (Idle past 3327 days)
Posts: 649
From: Melbourne, Australia
Joined: 11-17-2004


Message 250 of 300 (255552)
10-29-2005 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by nwr
10-29-2005 8:02 PM


Re: The RAZD suspension - how long?
and how come admin only threads are not admin only.. I've set up several boards in my time and restricting access by group is really easy... so Why can non Admins even post in these topics?
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robinrohan
Inactive Member


Message 251 of 300 (255557)
10-29-2005 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by ohnhai
10-29-2005 9:30 PM


Re: The RAZD suspension - how long?
Why on earth would one suspend RAZD? What did he do?


"Turning out pigs for creationists makes me blue and blurry."--Brad McFall
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Adminnemooseus
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Message 252 of 300 (255561)
10-29-2005 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by ohnhai
10-29-2005 9:30 PM


Re: The RAZD suspension - how long?
The closest thing to a public "Admin Only" forum is the "Proposed New Topics forum. The topic in question is in the "Suggestions and Questions" forum. I have recently suggested (in the "Private Administration Forum") that we have a new "The Public Record" forum, for "Admin Only" messages, but such has not yet come to be.

I would think that a "(MESSAGES BY ADMIN ONLY)" in the topic title should be plenty clear. RAZD has also posted to that topic on previous occassions.

More seriously, much of RAZD's recent output has been attacks on the person of Mirabile_Auditu. Feel free to look at RAZD's most recent messages.

Mirabile_Auditu is (perhaps) not unlike a maddened bull, and RAZD functioned as the pictador, sinking barbs and such into said bull.

I feel no rush to lift the suspension. Perhaps another admin might feel otherwise.

Adminnemooseus

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ohnhai
Member (Idle past 3327 days)
Posts: 649
From: Melbourne, Australia
Joined: 11-17-2004


Message 253 of 300 (255564)
10-29-2005 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by Adminnemooseus
10-29-2005 10:18 PM


Re: The RAZD suspension - how long?
Mirabile_Auditu ( having reviewed his posts) has done precious little except come in looking for an argument. Even going so far to try and pick a fight with me, accusing me of an Ad Homineim attack that simply wasn’t there. He as come in and done little more than accuse all on the Evo side of the argument of being, rude arrogant and way to fond of the personal attack. I don’t blame RAZD for being irritated by this fella ( who it seems he has a history with) and if in that irritation he has let that slip into the forums then that is regrettable but understandable.

If the balance of Mirabile_Auditu’s posts were as calm rational and considered as that of RAZD’s then I would have a problem. But they are not. MA has come in looking for a fight and regrettably RAZD took the bait.

If you wish to keep RAZD suspended for a while then MA also needs a time out.

But that’s just my opinion.

This message has been edited by ohnhai, 30-10-2005 03:27 PM


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Nighttrain
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Posts: 1512
From: brisbane,australia
Joined: 06-08-2004


Message 254 of 300 (255565)
10-29-2005 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 253 by ohnhai
10-29-2005 11:04 PM


Re: The RAZD suspension - how long?
Right on, Ohnhai. I think of Razzy as a 'Defender of the Turf' rather than breaking guidelines. When fly-bys pop in and start bad-mouthing all and sundry, normal manners go on hold till the pest either pulls himself/herself into line, or moves on. Totally different scenario to debates getting heated.
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Yaro
Member (Idle past 4661 days)
Posts: 1797
Joined: 07-12-2003


Message 255 of 300 (255569)
10-30-2005 1:00 AM


RAZD is a good member
I can see where he got suspended, that's fine. You break the rules, ignore a warning, and youll get some time out. RAZD did this.

But his susspension should not be indefinete. The majority of his posts are informative and contribute greatly to the forum. I for one hope he is let back soon.


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