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Author | Topic: What is a "Real Conservative"? - [i]The American Conservative[/i] magazine | |||||||||||||||||
Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The American Conservative magazine
In their November 8, 2004 issue (which I hope came out well before that date), various people offered up their views on the upcoming presidential election. George W. Bush was Patrick Buchanan's choice. John Kerry was Scott McConnell's choice. Ralph Nader was Justin Raimondo's choice. There are also other essays available. I will quote the first three or four paragraphs of three of the essays. There is much more there:
Coming Home By Patrick J. Buchanan:
In the fall of 2002, the editors of this magazine moved up its launch date to make the conservative case against invading Iraq. Such a war, we warned, on a country that did not attack us, did not threaten us, did not want war with us, and had no role in 9/11, would be "a tragedy and a disaster." Invade and we inherit our own West Bank of 23 million Iraqis, unite Islam against us, and incite imams from Morocco to Malaysia to preach jihad against America. So we wrote, again and again. In a 6,000-word article entitled "Whose War", we warned President Bush that he was "being lured into a trap baited for him by neocons that could cost him his office and cause America to forfeit years of peace won for us by the sacrifices of two generations..." Everything we predicted has come to pass. Iraq is the worst strategic blunder in our lifetime. And for it, George W. Bush, his War Cabinet, and the neoconservatives who plotted and planned this war for a decade bear full responsibility. Should Bush lose on Nov. 2, it will be because he heeded their siren song "that the world was pining for American Empire"- that "Big Government Conservatism" is a political philosophy, not an opportunistic sellout of principle; that free-trade globalism is the path to prosperity, not the serial killer of U.S. manufacturing; that amnesty for illegal aliens is compassionate conservatism, not an abdication of constitutional duty. Kerry's the One By Scott McConnell
There is little in John Kerry's persona or platform that appeals to conservatives. The flip-flopper charge "the centerpiece of the Republican campaign against Kerry" seems overdone, as Kerry's contrasting votes are the sort of baggage any senator of long service is likely to pick up. (Bob Dole could tell you all about it.) But Kerry is plainly a conventional liberal and no candidate for a future edition of Profiles in Courage. In my view, he will always deserve censure for his vote in favor of the Iraq War in 2002. But this election is not about John Kerry. If he were to win, his dearth of charisma would likely ensure him a single term. He would face challenges from within his own party and a thwarting of his most expensive initiatives by a Republican Congress. Much of his presidency would be absorbed by trying to clean up the mess left to him in Iraq. He would be constrained by the swollen deficits and a ripe target for the next Republican nominee. It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America's conservative party, he has become the Left's perfect foil: its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia's last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks. Old Right Nader By Justin Raimondo
The Nader for President rally was a raucous affair and Mission High School was filled to capacity, with a substantial crowd packing the lobby and overflowing into the street. It was the logical place for such an event, the middle of San Francisco's Mission District, a hub of far-left activism where you?re as likely to see an advertisement for a forum by the International Socialist Organization as a billboard for Absolut vodka. As I entered the auditorium, Nader's runing mate, Peter Camejo, was already warming up the crowd. Camejo, a former Trotskyist turned Green, gives a good speech: the stentorian voice, the slashing polemics punctuated by applause. There I was, surrounded on every side by rambunctious Reds, wondering: what the heck am I doing here? As if in answer to my question, Nader finally strode onto the stage. He looked impossibly serene in the midst of that storm of applause, and his voice "steady and sure" reinforced an aura of integrity that seemed to emanate from his very person. We?re getting poorer, he said. In spite of government propaganda about how things are getting better, our standard of living, compared to the way our parents lived, is declining. The Left, content to settle for less, has given up fighting for real progress, while the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans on such issues as "the concentration of power." It sure seems that Bush vs. Kerry was looked upon as being a pragmatic choice between "the lesser of two evils", while Nader was actually liked. Moose (edited punctuation) PB This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 11-01-2005 08:12 AM This message has been edited by AdminJar, 11-01-2005 10:24 AM Edited by Minnemooseus, : Trying to get italics in topic title to work. They did work when I first posted this topic.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Berberry has posted a link in his Forging The Case For War message, at the "Karl Rove: Traitor" topic.
I would be interested in things flagged from this publication. Is AC anoutlet of "true conservativism", rather than the "false conservativism" of the neo-cons? Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I think extended consumer protectionism discussion should be brought to a new "Coffee House" topic.
I will say here, that government extreme consumer protectionism should be filed under "ultra-liberalism", while extreme non-consumer protectionism should be filed under "ultra-conservatism". It should be something of moderation, something somewhere in the middle. But please take any replies to this message to a new topic. Moose Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Caught much of yesterdays (2/22/06) "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross.
Looking at President Bush, Seeing an 'Impostor' : NPR Quoted from the above cited:
quote: Also available at the page is fair sized excerpt from the "Imposter" book. There are also links to listen to the archived "Fresh Air" program itself. I could not get them to work. The page also supplies this link to a Barlett column archive:Bruce Bartlett: Biography and Latest Articles Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
For lack of a better place, here it is.
Via Page not found · GitHub Pages Which guides to Page not found | ScienceBlogs, where the further discussion is found: Lifted from Jason Rosenhouse's Panda's Thumb message:
As you have no doubt heard by now, there was a brief exchange on evolution at last night's Republican debate. Senator John McCain was asked bluntly whether he “believed in” evolution. After a moment of hesitation he answered, simply, “Yes.” Moderator Chris Matthews then asked the ten candidates whether any of them did not believie in evolution. Representative Tom Tancredo, Senator Sam Brownback and Governor Mike Huckabee raised their hands. There were, as I understand it, no follow up questions. Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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What we need are some good "tax and spend" liberals. Moose Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for ” but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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