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Phat
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Message 14 of 301 (257645)
11-08-2005 3:16 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by CanadianSteve
11-08-2005 12:31 AM


Re: A prominent psychiatrist explains why Muslims assimilate less
Interesting. I particularly was impressed with this logic:
article writes:
According to Islamism, the West can never meet the demands of justice, because it is decadent, materialistic, individualistic, heathen, and democratic rather than theocratic. Only a return to the principles and practices of seventh-century Arabia will resolve all personal and political problems at the same time. This notion is fundamentally no more (and no less) bizarre or stupid than the Marxist notion that captivated so many Western intellectuals throughout the 20th century: that the abolition of private property would lead to final and lasting harmony among men. Both conceptions offer a formula that, rigidly followed, would resolve all human problems.
If this psychologist is even half right, the religious wars of the future are ineveitable.
As for Crashfrogs assertion that Christians are similar, it simply
is not so. Christians can easily assimilate into a materialistic culture...that is why we are such sinners!
This message has been edited by Phat, 11-08-2005 01:16 AM

A youth is a person who is going to carry on what you have started. He will assume control of your cities, states, and nations. He is going to take over your churches, schools, and corporations. You may adopt all the policies you please, but how they are carried out depends on him. So it might be well to pay him some attention.
A road is a flattened-out wheel, rolled up in the belly of an airplane

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Phat
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Message 75 of 301 (257886)
11-08-2005 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by randman
11-08-2005 11:38 AM


Re: Why the Islamic world, and not the Christian one
Randman writes:
I specifically mentioned the Evangelical wing of Christianity and specified 3 groups within that stream of thought:
Baptists
Quakers
Anabaptists
I took European History in college and remember the anabaptists as but a minor footnote....you seem to think that they were a form of "born again" sectarianism running right alongside the Protestants and the Catholics. Do you by chance have a mennonite background?

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Phat
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Message 89 of 301 (258029)
11-09-2005 3:27 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by bobbins
11-08-2005 10:18 PM


Re: No,yes,no,no - read the initial post
Bobbins writes:
The people engaged in the rioting are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants with little historical support for Islamic fundamentalism as they were the ones left behind in Algeria. Any anger is more likely aimed directly at the french government for ignoring their economic plight.
Since when are Western Democracies responsible for maintaining immigrant standards of living? If these disenchanted folk want a taste of reality, forcing them back to their own countries will teach them that nothing is a handout. Im surprised the Army is not involved! These rioters must be stopped at any cost!

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Phat
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Message 94 of 301 (258102)
11-09-2005 10:34 AM
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11-09-2005 4:20 AM


Solutions for the disenfranchised masses
Yes...I know you are right! I get angry when people destroy stuff! It seems unfair that just because some people don't have what others do...they have to wreck everything and cost all of us money! You don't see me blowing up Bill Gates or Donald Trumps houses....and I am plenty angry that all the wealthy C.E.O types have stolen my rightful wages as well! If I were any poorer, I would probably be starting a Jihad against wealthy Capitalists myself! (Unless God stopped me! Which He probably would...at least in my conscience )

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