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Author Topic:   Increase in Natural Disasters? Prophesied?
tardygm2 
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Message 91 of 157 (258404)
11-10-2005 9:00 AM
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11-10-2005 3:15 AM


Re: Summation of the Topic at hand
i think natural disasters are occuring like hurricane katrina and many other stuff cause jesus said all these beginning of sorrows.

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Message 92 of 157 (258407)
11-10-2005 9:09 AM
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11-10-2005 9:00 AM


Re: Summation of the Topic at hand
Then perhaps you would like to actually point out what Jesus is supposed to have said and explain why you think it refers to the present day - rather than, say, the 1st Century AD.

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Message 93 of 157 (258436)
11-10-2005 10:41 AM
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11-10-2005 9:00 AM


You're from Texas, you should know better.
Don't embarrass us samyy. What Hurricane killed the most people in the US? Where did it make landfall? When?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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tardygm2 
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Message 94 of 157 (258481)
11-10-2005 12:47 PM
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11-10-2005 9:09 AM


Re: Summation of the Topic at hand
cause im saying this cause i wanna see my grandma again she passed away so jesus can make me see her again

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Message 95 of 157 (258489)
11-10-2005 12:52 PM
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Re: Summation of the Topic at hand
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    Message 96 of 157 (258763)
    11-11-2005 2:00 AM
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    11-10-2005 12:52 PM


    Fresh Fodder from Pat
    This just in the news today:
    AP writes:
    Televangelist Pat Robertson warns Pa. town of disaster following 'intelligent design' vote
    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) -- Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson warned residents of a rural Pennsylvania town Thursday that disaster may strike there because they "voted God out of your city" by ousting school board members who favored teaching intelligent design.
    All eight Dover, Pa., school board members up for re-election were defeated Tuesday after trying to introduce "intelligent design" - the belief that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power - as an alternative to the theory of evolution.
    "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club."
    Eight families had sued the district, claiming the policy violates the constitutional separation of church and state. The federal trial concluded days before Tuesday's election, but no ruling has been issued.
    Later Thursday, Robertson issued a statement saying he was simply trying to point out that "our spiritual actions have consequences."
    "God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever," Robertson said. "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
    Robertson made headlines this summer when he called on his daily show for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
    In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. He has also said that feminism encourages women to "kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."
    Pat, Pat, Pat! Such a publicity hound!

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    Message 97 of 157 (258764)
    11-11-2005 2:04 AM
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    11-11-2005 2:00 AM


    Re: Fresh Fodder from Pat
    Obviously Pat Robertson's God likes perjurers..

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    Message 98 of 157 (258811)
    11-11-2005 10:37 AM
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    11-11-2005 2:04 AM


    How old is Pat?
    Too bad we closed the Pat Robertson thread.
    Is there an increase in these kind of crazy pronouncements by Pat Robertson? He looks like the ravings of someone sufffering from a dementia.

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    Message 99 of 157 (258821)
    11-11-2005 11:19 AM
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    11-11-2005 10:37 AM


    Re: How old is Pat?
    NosyNed
    He looks like the ravings of someone sufffering from a dementia.
    I would suppose that is possible though my take is that he is after the ratings boost to his business.Nothing like contrversial stances to draw attention to your show.

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    jar
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    Message 100 of 157 (258840)
    11-11-2005 12:31 PM
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    11-11-2005 10:37 AM


    Re: How old is Pat?
    If he were unique, I might agree. But unfortunately he is but one of a large body of such nutcases and the 700 Club has a passel of followers that seem to agree with his pronouncements.

    Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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    jar
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    Message 101 of 157 (258998)
    11-11-2005 9:47 PM


    Is there any difference between Osama Bin Laden and Pat Robertson?
    Both threaten destruction to US citizens and encourage others to violence. Why isn't Robertson listed on the most wanted list right beside Osama Bin Laden?

    Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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    crashfrog
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    Message 102 of 157 (259000)
    11-11-2005 10:00 PM
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    11-11-2005 9:47 PM


    Re: Is there any difference between Osama Bin Laden and Pat Robertson?
    Why isn't Robertson listed on the most wanted list right beside Osama Bin Laden?
    Because Robertson isn't actually any good at it?

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    Buzsaw
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    Message 103 of 157 (259205)
    11-12-2005 10:03 PM
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    11-11-2005 9:47 PM


    Re: Is there any difference between Osama Bin Laden and Pat Robertson?
    jar writes:
    Both threaten destruction to US citizens and encourage others to violence. Why isn't Robertson listed on the most wanted list right beside Osama Bin Laden?
    PR does not threaten destruction to US citizens. He simply warns them of how he believes the judgement of God works as per the scriptures which speak of such judgements on those who provoke the wrath of God. This, he believes, would be analogous to warning a blind person headed in the path of danger.
    On the other hand, Bin Laden threatens to destroy and does destroy US citizens. You may not agree with PR, but don't malign and judge him unjustly and falsy as you're doing. Likely you've, at some time or another, chastized others, admonishing them to "judge not, that you be not judged."
    As for Chavez, likely PR's not the only notable who thinks this oppressor should be taken out. We've fought wars taking out his kind and some, including US President Kennedy advocated the violent elimination of Chavez type, Fidel Castro, now friend and ally of Chavez. Had Castro been taken out a long time ago, many lives would've been spared and millions of the oppressed would've been liberated. Like Castro, Chavez is arming to firm up his oppressive regime and power in the region.
    Pittsburglive writes:
    President George W. Bush rightly is concerned about history repeating itself now that Fidel Castro Jr. -- better known as Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez -- has ordered massive quantities of armaments from Russia.
    Mr. Chavez's Cyrillic shopping spree includes more than 100,000 AK-47 rifles (U.S. intelligence says it might reach 300,000), MiG-29 fighter jets and attack helicopters. He also plans to build an ammunition factory.
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/ opinion/archive/

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    Chiroptera
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    Message 104 of 157 (259209)
    11-12-2005 10:16 PM
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    11-12-2005 10:03 PM


    Re: Is there any difference between Osama Bin Laden and Pat Robertson?
    ...Fidel Castro Jr. -- better known as Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez ....
    ...Mr. Chavez's Cyrillic shopping spree....
    My first instinct is to be highly skeptical of essays that need to use phrases like this. Usually it's a sign of someone running off at the mouth. Check the original sources, that is, if there are original sources and this isn't just something that this clown overheard in a bar.

    "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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    Buzsaw
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    Message 105 of 157 (259210)
    11-12-2005 10:17 PM
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    11-11-2005 10:37 AM


    Re: How old is Pat?
    NosyNed writes:
    Too bad we closed the Pat Robertson thread.
    Is there an increase in these kind of crazy pronouncements by Pat Robertson? He looks like the ravings of someone sufffering from a dementia.
    1. Since Asgara linked the Pat Robertson thread in the OP of this sequential thread, I assume PR is still on topic here.
    2. Imo, you need to refute the man, but all some of you people seem to accomplish is unsubstantiated personal attacks on the characters of him and other Christian notables. Is it Christophobia or what?

    The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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