A Christian (and creationist)'s condemnation of "Creation Science"

Originally posted by Jeff:
Perhaps you can share some motive as to why all scientists would conspire to undermine a religious view ? Why THAT particular view ?
Do you not think this sounds even a little paranoid ?
It sounds like you’re just closing your eyes to the evidence rather than addressing it and refuting it.
I suppose that would be easier, though.
In addition to the examples above, Introduce us to Yahweh and have Him explain his creation methods used in Genesis. Perhaps then He might also explain why He chose to leave abundant evidence that evolution occurred, when it actually didn’t. Might He fess up to being the Cosmic Prankster ?
Please don’t wave an ancient sacred text at us either, that’s not the same thing.
If I promised to introduce you to George Washington & Ben Franklin, you’d be quite disappointed if all I did was wave a flag at you.jeff********************
Responses such as Jeff offered here, which has been edited so as not to repeat what proved to be a worthless response to my post, is a prime example of why I never reply to some posts. They make no attempt to address the initial posting, but simply offer another round of Evo-parroting, giving absolutely no consideration to the concept of true science. Rather than address the issues posed, the most common tactic of the Evos is used. This makes for a useless exchange which is why I will often choose to ignore such postings rather than dignify them with a response. For the purpose of clarification I have chosen to abandon that line of reason so as not to have to continually explain to others why I must simply ignore their ramblings.ShalomJet------------------
As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?Prof. George Greenstein

Originally posted by mark24:
"No evidence disproves nothing. Positive evidence please."If Evos truly accepted this line of reasoning they would abandon the TOE faster than Hitler abandoned his own people when faced with utter defeat.ShalomJet------------------
As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?Prof. George Greenstein

Hi Jet!Please accept a 24-hour suspension of posting privileges.--------------------EvC Forum Administrator

Jet,Well, that was a substantive reply!Mark------------------
Occam's razor is not for shaving with.

Hi Jet!Your posting privileges have been restored.You can post any views you desire as long as you follow the forum guidelines. In particular, please follow rule 3, respect for fellow members. The next suspension will be for 48 hours, and the next for a week.I welcome critiques of board administration, but please do this by opening a thread in the Suggestions forum. Or you may say anything you like in the Free For All forum.

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Is Christian fundimentalist creationism, and the related "creation science", harmful to Christian credibility?

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Yes. Even most Christians find no reason to believe it. Those churches and individuals who push it are pushing to a small audience - those scientifically illiterate enough to swallow it.

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Is it counter-productive toward building or maintaining a Christian faith?

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Totally counter-productive. Shraf's husband is a case in point. I'd have been the same; fortunately over here YEC is pretty darned rare.

Thanks Percival, I truly needed a break from the mind-numbed, brain-dead Evos' endless mantras.......oops! There I go again! Guess I will have to wait until next week to post my next reply! ShalomJet------------------
As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?Prof. George Greenstein

Yes, I guess you will. Please accept a 48-hour suspension of posting privileges.I think we're all curious why you're here. Your approach seems antithetical to Christian principles, and is probably a significant turn-off to people on both sides of the issue, including those on the fence who you would like most to influence.--------------------EvC Forum Administrator

Hi Jet!Your posting privileges have been restored. Please remember that only the Free For All forum is unmoderated.--------------------EvC Forum Administrator

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As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?Prof. George Greenstein

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Originally posted by Admin:

Thanks Percival, I truly needed a break from the mind-numbed, brain-dead Evos' endless mantras.......oops! There I go again! Guess I will have to wait until next week to post my next reply!

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Yes, I guess you will. Please accept a 48-hour suspension of posting privileges.

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I think we're all curious why you're here. Your approach seems antithetical to Christian principles, and is probably a significant turn-off to people on both sides of the issue, including those on the fence who you would like most to influence.

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***This is not the first time I have received a query from the evolutionists' side as to what does or does not qualify as proper "Christian" behaviour when it comes to dealing with pagans, heretics, and anti-theists. So as to get a better understanding of the evolutionary mind and its' thought processes, I have open a new thread within the "FAITH AND BELIEF" forum. Perhaps those evolutionists who are so adept at instructing Christians how to behave as a "Proper Christian" would care to enlighten everyone on their views of the proper behaviour of believers, especially considering the fact that most evolutionists utterly deny Christianity and its' teachings. Along with the evolutionists' advice, perhaps they could also include any source material, including references, by which they have come to their conclusions on proper behaviour of Christians. I don't actually expect to receive many replies from evolutionists as this may require them to actually pick up a Bible and conduct a thorough search of the scriptures for all related material. However, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and provide them with the opportunity to do so at their leisure.***ShalomJet------------------
As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?Prof. George Greenstein