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Yaro Member (Idle past 6516 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
I just think when something like 90% of the evidence that should be there is non-existent that it is reasonable to question the model. You to this date refuse to deal with that fact. That's because you think the fossil record is the only evidence available, but you disregard the wealth of genetic evidence and geologic evidence. Compound that with the fact that no one else has put forward a theory that accounts for even a smidge of that evidence, you got yourself a pretty solid item. You don't dispute genetics, why the hell do you dispute the ToE?
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Yaro, I don't think it's the only evidence for evolution. I admit there is evidence elsewhere.
You misunderstand me. I think the fossil record is well nigh proof against current ToE models, and as such, the other data needs reinterpreting.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
you never reinterpretted my data, rand.
i see ALOT of gaps there, don't you? i mean, 90% of the lines are missing! it's hardly a complete picture. what do you suppose it is? were the dot's just created that way?
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4013 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
i see ALOT of gaps there, don't you? i mean, 90% of the lines are missing! it's hardly a complete picture. what do you suppose it is? were the dot's just created that way? Sure looks like that Incompetent Designer`s been at work again.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6516 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Those dots don't connect! There is no proof anywhere that those dots were ever connected in any way!
Besides... I don't see a pattern that looks like a whale in there!
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: You should realize, of course, that soft tissues like hearts and mammary glands do not fossilize. Also, bat wing bones are tiny and fragile, which would mean that fossils of them would be easily destroyed and therefore rare. Same with insect soft parts. This message has been edited by schrafinator, 11-15-2005 10:05 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: There are holes in every single scientific theory in existence. I don't know anyone on this board, or any scientist, for that matter, who denies this. Why do you think any of us would? All of them are incomplete. The ToE, however, has been demonstrated to have enormously useful predictive power; much more than any other scientific theory of the origin of species that has ever been proposed.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Scientists do not have a very good understanding of how gravity works. There are, in fact, sevearal competing scientific theories which attempt to explain it, but each of them have "holes" rather larger than the "holes" in the ToE, and none of them are as accurately predictive as the ToE. Why do you attack Evolutionary Biology, casting aspersions, when this obviously weaker and less-supported area of science continues to be taught in schools?
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Yes, randman, please answer the question:
Do you have a cat? Can you show us the skeleton of your cat's great grandfather?
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
For all the lurkers, when confronted with uncomfortable facts, evos generally respond as shraf does above with silly posts and nothing viably substantial.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
For all the lurkers, when confronted with uncomfortable facts, Creationists in general and randman specifcally respond(s) by misprepresenting what their(his) opponent has said, by changing the subject, by moving the goalposts or by playing moving definitions.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Yea, not explaining where my cats' grandparents are buried is sure moving the goalpoasts....
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6516 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
It's an accurate representation to your unreasonable demands.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4919 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Yea, just asking for data you guys claim you have (but don't) is unreasonable, eh?
If you are going to say critics are just talking about "gaps" and state that no one can have "every link", then you are obligated to tell the truth, specifically how many of the theoritical links do you have. You guys act like you have a substantial portion of the evolutionary chain. Just look at the stupid diagram above. But in reality, you don't have enough "links" to even show that they are links. If we look at say, a proposed path of evolution that would take, say, 10,000 links, you have maybe, what 5 potentials? It's laughable.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6516 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Yea, just asking for data you guys claim you have (but don't) is unreasonable, eh? If you are going to say critics are just talking about "gaps" and state that no one can have "every link", then you are obligated to tell the truth, specifically how many of the theoritical links do you have. You guys act like you have a substantial portion of the evolutionary chain. Just look at the stupid diagram above. But in reality, you don't have enough "links" to even show that they are links. If we look at say, a proposed path of evolution that would take, say, 10,000 links, you have maybe, what 5 potentials? It's laughable. What's laughable is your compleat lack of understanding concerning the ToE. What's laughable is your willfull ignorance, and inability (refusal?) to understand the countless explanations made to you as to why your understanding of ToE is flawed. It's also rather obvious that you are incable of refuting any actual POINTS made to you, so instead of trying to debate you would rather cast insults and gloat about your victory of ignorance.
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