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Message 1 of 26 (259198)
11-12-2005 9:42 PM


Hello,
The Tablets of the Testimony were kept in the Ark of the covenant, and the books of the Law upon it, in a most Holy place, and the fulfillness of all the Law required a total Holiness;
Was the Tabernacle of His body established to fulfill, by His death, a law other than the Law that required Holiness?
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : updates

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Message 3 of 26 (259636)
11-14-2005 12:47 PM
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Re: Spiritual Knowledge
Hi Phat,
With this thread one would be naturally heading to a discussion about the differences between the "Versions" of the Bible and the scriptures as originally written; but leaving room for a "Yes" and "No" Debate,
and for that, I would like to have it in "The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy".
I do not plan to make a blog, best seller or film script from it, at least not for the next one or two centuries.

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Message 5 of 26 (260293)
11-16-2005 4:51 PM


Definition of blasphemy against the Tabernacle
First Cluster
imposition - The lamb was indicted by Roman laws.
eclipsed - Pilate’s words remained the same: “I find no basis for a charge against him.”
imposition - Pilate presided at a trial.
eclipsed - A second trial would invalidate the authority of the High Priest and of the Sanhedrin before the eyes of the Hebrew people, and would violate the Law that attests “One only Law shall be to him who is born at home, and to the stranger who lives as a foreigner among you”. The fact of asking the lamb five questions doesn’t mean that Pilate held the intention of presiding at a trial. A second trial by the invader’s laws was not what the High Priest asked Pilate to do.
imposition - The lamb was held prisoner inside the Praetorium.
eclipsed - The lamb was not Pilate’s prisoner; the Praetorium was the headquarters of a military unit, not a trial Court.
imposition - Pilate gave in because he was concerned about revolt and conveyed the death sentence.
eclipsed - His wife sent to him, saying: Have thou nothing to do with that just man; for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.
imposition - The High Priest asked Pilate to have the lamb nailed to a cross.
eclipsed - The High Priests’ words remained the same: “We have a Law and he shall die according to our Law; because he made himself Jehavéh [I AM] the Anointed of Ishrael.” The word ”cross’ does not exist in the books of the Law and of the Prophets, and of the Psalms. The roman cross was the symbol of the roman occupancy and had the shape of a roman sword. To the Hebrew people and the High Priests the roman cross represented Ishrael’s subjection and humiliation before the invader, the Roman empire.
imposition - Pilate had the lamb crucified.
eclipsed - He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and murder, the one they asked for, and surrendered Jeh-shua to their will: that he was suspended [his hands tied together above his head to a green Hebrew tree] according to the Law.
imposition - The Hebrew trial by the Sanhedrin was completely illegal.
eclipsed - These are the words which I spoke to you, while I was yet with you, that all things would be fulfilled in me, which are written in the books of the Law and in the books of the Prophets.
1. Why, in the ordinations that were left to the Roman church, would the words 'cross, nails, crucify' have to be inserted in the Versions of the scriptures in the place of the words 'tree, chords, suspend'?
If there is a beast like a leopard, not being a real creature but an illustration of an imposed doctrine, that would have to open its mouth in *blasphemies against the Eternal, to blaspheme the Tabernacle [of His body], then it would be reasonable that a substitution of words had to be a part of those ordinations.
For the doctrine upon which the babylonical ”Mother’ church is sitting, wouldn’t be a scarlet [obscure] beast [doctrine] and there wouldn’t be **blasphemy against the Tabernacle [body] of the lamb if, in truth, the same body belonging to the Holy Spirit had been nailed to a cross of the Roman empire, instead of having both hands tied together with chords to a Hebrew tree attested in the books of the Law and of the Prophets, and of the Psalms.
* blaspheme [definition], spiritually; 1. whenever Holiness and Eternity belonging to Whom is the Completeness of the Holy Spirit are attributed to something or someone which is not intrinsically Holy nor Eternal.
** blasphemy against the Tabernacle [body] of the Holy Spirit; [definition], spiritually; 2. whenever it is said that the Holiness to which the Tabernacle of His body had been separated [or sanctified] to die, could be applied to a law other than the Law in which abided the Holiness that was required to the fulfillness of all the Law.
Obscured in the eclipsed and celestial: “..are you the son.. ?” - was the lamb condemned by pronouncing the words “I son of El” [bar-Yah in Hebrew]; or by pronouncing the KADDHESH of the tetragram..
For the Law does not condemn anyone by saying "I son of El". Even the statement which belongs from the doctrine of those High priests has always been that “all the human beings are sons of El”.
Pilate and the High Priests.
- What accusation do you bring against this man?
- If this man weren’t our prisoner, we wouldn’t have brought him up to you.
- Then why don't you take him yourselves, and judge him according to your law?
- We have been impeded from executing a sentence to death with our own hands.
The reason why the High Priest’s went before Pilate. The High Priests already had sentenced Him to death, and the only barrier that impeded them from tying His hands together above his head to a post was the presence of the roman army. Judea had been invaded by the Roman empire and Pilate was the representative of the invaders; to which he was given the title ”Pontius’ which means ”commander’ of the Praetorium.
Only the Romans had the right;
- to appoint and crown the kings.
- to demand unpaid help from the Hebrew population.
- to ask anyone to serve them.
- to impose the death penalty.
- to cause to cease any death penalty.
- My Kingdom is not of this age. If my Kingdom were of this age, then the Hebrews would fight, that I wouldn’t be delivered to the roman soldiers. But now my Kingdom is not from this age.
Obscured in the eclipsed and celestial: “..would fight, that I wouldn’t be delivered to the Hebrews..”
[The lamb was being delivered to the roman soldiers].
The Hebrew people would want him to release Barabbas, for they knew that the lamb was not Pilate’s prisoner, neither was the lamb accused by him, not even the commander of the Praetorium [Roman military unit] could invalidate a Sanhedrin’s authority.
Did the apostles call the lamb by the NAME OF YAHWEH/JEHAVEH [YAH-SHUA/JEH-SHUA which means I AM the Salver/Mediation],
or did they call the lamb by a man’s name [Iesus/IESVS KRISTVS]?
He/she that hath the understanding,
let him/her count the number of the beast.
For it is the number of a man’s name;
and the number of the beast is 6, 6, 6
[VI, VI, SEI].
Hebrew numeric value for the word SVS [i.e. horse in Hebrew]
Sameq 6,0 - Vav 6 - Sameq 6,0
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Message 9 of 26 (266293)
12-07-2005 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by jaywill
12-06-2005 5:42 PM


Re: Definition of blasphemy against the Tabernacle
jaywill writes:
"If Ceasar has the right to kill Him then they nullify everything and confess Ceasar as thier sole authority."
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There is none who is that naive to think (or assume) that the pharisees were being sincere, and that they actually confessed Ceasar as their sole authority.
The re'Legions believe what their imposed doctrines[bestiae] guess to be truth, for they follow its doctrinal image[of the bestiae] but who ever is of I AM does remain in the Truth, not in the guessings[beliefs].
The religions have "faith", but the word "faith" has been inserted in the place of the original word "Fidelity", in the Versions of the reality; the "Versions" of the scriptures as originally written.
Fidelity requires permanence time, a whole life to remain loyal,
but faith is just a moment.
If the word "faith" in the ancient latin language(not the Medieval) could hold the meaning of "Fidelity", then the word "believe", which was also inserted in the versions of the scriptures, would hold the meaning of the original verb "to remain".
That is why the faith/beliefss in the guessings of the bestiae[imposed doctrine].
And they have, in the form of doctrine, the sign [that is made with the right hand at the height of the forehead], and the name [KRISTVS IESVS - VI, VI, SEI], and the number of the bestiae [numeral cross-reference/ reverentia numerale versetto-capitolare].
uno, due, tre, quattro, cinque, sei, sette.
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Message 12 of 26 (266471)
12-07-2005 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by jaywill
12-07-2005 2:10 PM


Re: Definition of blasphemy against the Tabernacle
jaywill writes:
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And they have, in the form of doctrine, the sign [that is made with the right hand at the height of the forehead], and the name [KRISTV IESVS - VI, VI, SEI], and the number of the bestiae [numeral cross-reference/ reverentia numerale versetto-capitolare].
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I don't follow this.
You don't follow, but you have quoted the numeral cross-reference, which were inserted in the "Versions", as if they were part of the scriptures as originally written.
The reason why the numbers of verses and chapters that are found in the scriptures should not be quoted and memorized.
The scriptures were originally written in the Hebrew sequence, right to left, without breaks of verses and chapters.
1. When were the numbers of verses and chapters added to the scriptures as if they were already part of the scriptures as originally written?"
The New Testament was first divided into verses in *1551 in a greek version. In 1560, an English translation was entirely divided into the verses that still are found today.
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2. To whom do the numbers of verses and chapters that are found in the scriptures spiritually belong to?
If they were inserted in the scriptures under the ordinance of the angels of the Eternal to the fulfillment of the words in the book Revelations regarding the spiritual ministry of a Roman city or church-woman who was built sitting upon seven hills; and says about herself “I am the Mother”; and all the nations have drunk from her cup of a Sunday’s mass; then, it would be reasonable to say that the numbers of verses and chapters belong to the spiritual ministry of Vivi Sei, the beast that has two horns like a new lamb.
* [1,5,5,1/*,* and 1,5,6,0/*,*] [2,4] [3,1,1,1/6]
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3. Why the numbers of verses and chapters that are found in the scriptures should not be quoted and memorized?
The eternal words attest that a complete holiness would not be achieved unless there is an omission of the use of the type of number which belongs to the spiritual ministry of the beast. The eternal words didn’t authorize the use of the numbers of verses and chapters, not even the lamb has used quotation methods other than the eternal words only.
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. Why would the number of the beast have to be counted in a book of 66 books?
The eternal Word Who says “He that hath the understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of the name of a man; and the number of the beast is 6 6 6”, also attests that the number of the beast would have to be part of a spiritual ministry standing where it ought not, [in a holy place]. The only spiritual place that was left where the name of a man is widely recognized as being a version of the name that replaces the original hebrew name I AM of the lamb, is the book that is a Version of the scriptures; a Version of the reality, and not the reality itself (as originally written). Three criterias attest that the “Version”; “book of 66 books”, is the place where the totality of the type of number of the beast would have to be counted:
I - Had to be counted in a holy or spiritual place.
II - The name of a man [Kristu I.e.sus/Id est suspended Nazarene Rex Iudaeorum] is found there in the place of the name of Gehavéh through which the lamb has been called by the apostles. [Gehav-shua which means I AM the Salver/Mediation].
III - In that name of a man a trine a six is found twice, once in the hebrew numeric value and once more in the Roman algarisms/words value; KRISTVS IESVS - VI, VI, SEI - uno, due, tre, quattro, cinque, sei, sette. [reading system/ hebrew sequence].
I.e.sus - In a book of 66 books which is called "Version of the reality", the name given by the spiritual ministry called "the beast" is a name that has the value 60, 6, 60 = 6, 6, 6 whenever it is counted according to the Hebrew Numeric Values.
Samekh = 60
Vav = 6
Samekh = 60
/ the hebrew word sus/svs which means horse.
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Had the apostles call the lamb by the Name of JEHAVH [Jehav-shua / Yahshua which means I AM the Salver/Mediation], or did they call the lamb by a man's name [I.e.svs/Iesus]?
Version of the reality/ “He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.”
Obscured in the eclipsed and celestial: “He that hath the understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man's name; and the number of the beast is 6 6 6.”
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Message 14 of 26 (275220)
01-03-2006 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jaywill
12-08-2005 5:20 PM


Re: Definition of blasphemy against the Tabernacle
jaywill writes:
As for 666, it stands for Ceasar Nero.
Hello, jaywill, what you have pointed out does coincide with the interpretation of the materialists, who ever makes no distinction between flesh and the Spirit.
Would that prophecy remain eternally for all the generations, or would that have been written in the last book of the Scriptures just to advise a few 'dropped cats' who lived in the days of Nero?
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Regarding that distinction which was mentioned above,
And the Word became flesh - ..and they have chosen the flesh
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - [definition] - spiritually; Whenever no distinction is made between the flesh and the Spirit.
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In the beginning Was the Word that became flesh,
but they have chosen to worship the flesh through which the Savior was brought to the world. They preferred to worship that flesh, and they deemed a creature to be divine, and they worshipped the creature, a woman, and called her "the mother of the Holy Spirit".
And they blasphemed against the Word that was in the beginning,
by giving to a woman, who is not the Word that was in the beginning, the attribution "mother of the Higher".
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And the Word that became flesh entered into the world, and the Holy Spirit abided in the flesh, but they called Him "spirit of a man" and not "the Holy Spirit in the flesh of a man".
And once more they have chosen to worship the flesh rather than the Holy Spirit Who abided in the flesh, and they created a doctrine by putting a division between Him and the Holy Spirit.
And they called the division "trine", and by doing so, they blasphemed against the Holy Spirit by saying that He (the Word that became flesh) was not the Holy Spirit Himself.
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Message 15 of 26 (275949)
01-05-2006 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by jaywill
12-07-2005 2:10 PM


Re: Definition of blasphemy against the Tabernacle
jaywill writes:
This is receiving a living Person into one's being
Regarding the Progenitor, Begotten-son and His Holy Spirit,
Brought from the books of the prophets, ISAIAH: "I AM the same; I AM the first, I AM also the last"
1. I AM the First (the Progenitor). - here it is clear that the name of the First is I AM.
2. I AM also the Last (the Firstborn) - here it is clear that the name of the Last is also I AM.
This is confirmed by the Lamb, saying "I and the Progenitor are One."
And as I AM is Jahveh/JEHAVEH, it is proven that the Begotten-son holds the same name of I AM
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According to the Law, a lamb may not be sent in his own name; also the Begotten-son didn't come in His own name, not even having His own name,
but the name of the One Who had sent Him; I AM, that is why the apostles have called Him by the name of His Holy Spirit: Jeh-shua/YAHSHUA (I AM the Salvation), and it is clear that "I AM the SALVATION" is the complete name of His Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit is Salvation and Mediation between the First of Seven(the Progenitor) and the Last of Seven(the Begotten-son). The Holy Spirit is the only access (Mediation) through the narrow door and straight path.
And as the same Word became flesh, generated by His Holy Spirit, there was no "spirit of man" abiding in Him, for He was not generated by man. [A son of a fish is still a fish]
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And as there was no "spirit of man" but only "His Holy Spirit Himself abiding in Him",
let none omit that "the flesh of Begotten-son generated by His Holy Spirit" is: "Holy Spirit become flesh".
It makes no sense to keep the concept of a trine as it has been presented by the theology[false prophet],
because the doctrine[beast] does try to support, through its doctrinal image i.e. called Triune, the delusion of the existence of a division between Him and His Holy Spirit,
and by doing so, the doctrine (beast) blasphemes and leaves to the habitants of the land the delusion that He would have had a "spirit of man"
And it was quoted before that the Most High is Spirit [A Spirit that is Holy and Seven], then spiritually regarding the ETERNAL; there is no "person" without first having a "Spirit", His Holy Spirit abiding;
therefore, there is no “person", but the Totality of His Holy Spirit abiding in the Lamb, for the Eternal is Spirit.
And there is no accusation, because the blasphemies against the Holy Spirit DO NOT COME from human being, but from spiritual ordinations: the imposed doctrine[bestiae] and the theology[false prophet].
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Message 16 of 26 (297494)
03-23-2006 5:50 AM


The Second Cluster
Hello,
I just retrieved it from a book written on the outside and sealed within.
Second Cluster
impositione - The High Priest benefited greatly from the Roman occupation, and was afraid of it being taken away.
eclipsed - The High Priest's statement directed to the pharisees remained the same: Ye know nothing at all - and his statement did not coincide with the pharisees' opinion. Actually part of the scribes and pharisees were afraid of the Hebrew people: "What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him". The actual "great benefit" that part of the scribes and pharisees were afraid of losing was the one that had been attested by the eternal words, saying: They enjoy the attention they get on the streets, and they enjoy being called Rabbi. Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear extra long tassels on their robes. *And how they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the most prominent seats in the synagogue.
Other Translation/ Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. *They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, *preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called "Doctor" and "Reverend".
Instead of giving you the Eternal's Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on Elohim, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn't think of lifting a finger to help.
The Eternal words attested in the Book of the Prophet ZecharYah, where it is said "they will look at me whom they pierced” do coincide with the piercing of His side with a spear by a roman soldier.
In the same page, of the same Book, are found the eternal words regarding what type of print were in his hands:
And they shall say to him: What are these wounds in the midst of thy hands? And he shall say: With these I was wounded in the house of them that loved me. * Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that cleaveth to me, saith Yahweh of the Hosts: strike the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn my hand to the little ones.
The print of wounds in His hands were caused by unction, for the Lamb died by being ANOINTED with glittering white light of JEHAVEH/Yahweh OF THE HOSTS that glitters inside the clouds of all heaven.
His UNCTION with glittering light took place when He DELIVERED the Spirit,
and He was ANOINTED with that glittering light by the Eternal and Celestial JEHAVEH of the Hosts;
Even in that moment He also overcame the death. The death did not take His Spirit away from Him, but He DELIVERED HIS HOLY SPIRIT in the Hands of the Higher Eternal and Celestial, while He had his hands tied together against one another; tied ABOVE his head, with ropes to a Hebrew green tree.
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Message 19 of 26 (298012)
03-25-2006 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Jasmine77
03-24-2006 10:01 AM


The Second Cluster
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Hello Jasmine77,
The bestiae[imposed doctrines] and the false prophet[theology] state that "..the type of death Yeshua had to die required piercing His hands and feet (Psalm **:**).."
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But the word piercing from the bestiae's doctrinal image and its statement does not coincide with the Hebrew texts of the Sefer Tehilim.
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What makes one think that the same imposed doctrine/beast i.e. Roman catholicism, which, for more than a thousand years have been inserting its man’s name, its ancient version Iesus Kristus, and its own versions for the word Adonai in its “translations” of the Scriptures would care about keeping the Book of Psalms and the whole Brit Hadash[New Testament] intact?
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[Book of Psalms] - Sefer Tehilim
To the chief Musician, according to Ayeleth HaShahar, a Psalm of David.
My —, my —, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my loud complaint?
O my —, I cry in the daytime, but you do not hear; and in the night, and I have no rest.
But you are holy, O you who are enthroned on the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in you; they trusted, and you saved them.
They cried to you, and were saved; they trusted in you, and were not disappointed.
But I am a worm, and not a man; scorned by men, and despised by the people.
All those who see me mock me; they move the lip, they shake their head, saying,
He trusted on the Adonai that he would save him; let him save him, seeing he delights in him. But you are he who took me out of the womb; you made me hope when I was upon my mother’s breasts.
I was cast upon you from the womb; you are my from my mother’s belly.
Do not be far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. Many bulls surround me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me. They open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and a roaring lion.
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and you lay me down in the dust of death.
For dogs surround me; the assembly of the wicked encircle me; they seize my hands and my feet like a lion. I can count all my bones; they look and stare at me.
They divide my garments among them, and cast lots for my clothing.
But you, Adonai, be not far from me; O my strength, hasten to my help.
Save my soul from the sword; my only one from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion’s mouth; for you have answered me from the horns of the wild oxen.
I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation will I praise you.
You who fear the Adonai, praise him; all you the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all you the seed of Israel.
For he has not despised nor loathed the affliction of the afflicted; nor has he hidden his face from him; but when he cried to him, he heard.
My praise shall be of you in the great congregation; I will pay my vows before those who fear him.
The humble shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord. May your heart live for ever!
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord; and all the families of the nations shall worship before you.
For the kingdom is the Adonai’s; and he is ruler over the nations.
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And its doctrinal image also states that "..their leaders benefited greatly from the Roman occupation, and were afraid of it being taken away.."
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I. - The bestiae's concept is not founded in the High Priest's statement, but in the opinion of part of the pharisees [who were not the High Priest], saying:
"..and the Romans shall come and take away our place.."
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The High Priest's statement did NOT COINCIDE with the opinion of part of the pharisees:
Caiaphas, being the High Priest, said unto them: Ye know nothing at all
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Note: the quote of Scriptures as originally written: our place in the nation, instead of "place and nation",
for the Nation had already been taken by the Roman empire.
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II. - The bestiae's statement does also omit the reason why the Romans would come and take away the pharisee's benefits.
Actually part of the pharisees [not including the High Priest] were afraid of the Hebrew people:
"..for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him.."
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Message 20 of 26 (347234)
09-07-2006 8:00 AM


High priest did not ask Pilate to include the Roman cross
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To state that the Tabernacle of His body died on a Roman cross from the Roman laws, is the same as to say that the High priest did not ask Pilate to do the will of the Sanhedrin [Council of seventy-one sages of the Hebrew Court] which would in no way include the Roman cross as part of the fulfillness of the Law that was given to children of Ishrael.
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Message 21 of 26 (423355)
09-21-2007 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Jasmine77
03-24-2006 10:01 AM


Isn't a question of what type of green wood
Hi,
Isn't a question of what type of wood was the tabernacle suspended,
because the significance is not to be blaspheming against the tabernacle,
not one of the blasphemies that would have to be heard from the mouth of the scarlet--obscure beast--doctrine upon which sits the babylonical--great in size-- Romanesque Mother prostitute--church/city.
Because one of the seven hills is the place where the antique vates--sorcerers used to make their vaticynius--guessings for the ancient Roman government,
and the doctrine of the Nichopolitans--i.e. to spiritually bow before nichos-- is found there, where also lies the throne of the dragon that was in Pergamus.
What is the spiritual definition of blaspheme: 'when something that is not eternal
nor kashosh is said to be eternal and holy' --and vice-versa--
When the scarlet beast opens its mouth to blaspheme the name,
one of the blasphemies against the name is the word Iesus,
because IESVS isn't the eternal Hebrew name by which
the apostles have called the Word become flesh.
A version. Isn't real.
That same beast also blasphemes against those that dwell in heaven: id est: 'when something that is not there --in the holy place--, is said to be there; --or is said to be Kadhosh and ressurrected-- like the legions of canonized spiritual images of saints that proceeded from those vaticynius --vaticynare--'.
And the blasphemy against the tabernacle of the Word become flesh, has been against the tabernacle of His body, because no real friend would like others to blaspheme the body of a loved one,
especially if that body is the first-fruit that resurrected.
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Message 23 of 26 (442007)
12-19-2007 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by imageinvisible
12-19-2007 11:36 AM


Pilate didn't write the Word that contains the Tetragram
quote:
Jesus is the literal greek translation of the Hebrew name..
  —imageinvisible
Hi,
In the versions of Scriptures
the words Jehav-shua [I AM IS THE SALVATION], Adonai and Eliyoon (Most High)
have been substituted with IESVS/jesus, Baal (Lord) and G-d/elohim,
These substitutions have been done for three reasons:
1st. - in order for the fulfillness of prophecy with regard to what was predicted to be viewed standing where it ought not; in a holy place or holy bible;
2nd. - in order for the accomplishment of the eternal instructions in the books of the ancients that says: I did what separates my name from being polluted and they will not defile the holiness of my name any longer. - And as separate means sanctify, reserve and hide again as a hidden treasure in a field of eternal words, it can be viewed that the versions of scripture, which proceeded from the spiritual ordinations of the beast, are useful before the Eternal and Celestial. For whenever the word IESVS or jesus is pronounced by the imposed doctrines and abominations [beliefs/faiths] of the earth, this fact alone helps to not profane the pronunciation of the actual name of the LAMB, which has been kept separated, sealed and sanctified as a hidden treasure in a field.
3rd. - because the Most High would in no way determine that the pronunciation of the HOLY Hebrew Tetragram, [which requires KADHISH/HOLINESS], should remain into a version of scripture that had to be left to the clerical worshippers of saints/spiritual images of the Catholicism and to the false prophet [7th day Laodicean theology] and to the abominations and beliefs of the earth.
The origin of the word(s) Iesus/Iesu.
This evidence of the origin is founded in three real facts:
1st. - The original Hebrew name of the Word that became flesh, which translates 'I AM IS THE SALVATION', contains the eternal Word [YHWH/I AM] that was in the beginning.
2nd. - Pilate didn’t write the Hebrew name that contains the Tetragram, because the Word that became flesh was condemned precisely for pronouncing the same Hebrew name which translates ”I AM IS THE SALVATION’.
3rd. - Words that Pilate wrote on the plaque: I.E.SUS NAZARENUS REX IUDAEORUM - INRI
Id Est Suspended Nazarene King of Judah
While writing the Roman word(s) I.e.sus on the plaque attached to the green tree where the Lamb was suspended, having both His hands tied together with ropes above His head, Pilate wrote words only and not a name, not even names. The word Id also held the meaning of Idem, which means the same. Est is the Latin root of the word estar [to be]. Ancient Roman language: The same who is suspended/above is Nazarene Rex Iudaeorum. Soon it is viewed that while writing the word(s) I.e.sus, Pilate did not write a name, not even names.
1st - In the Ancient Roman language, the word sus means above, suspended, not in the Medieval Latin. The word Sus means above and up in Romanian, French, Occitan and Portuguese. 2nd. sus [above] - prendere - suspendere - sus’pension. 3rd - sus [above] - tentare - sustentare - sus’tain. . - Urge - sus - ursus [bear]. The origin of the ancient Latin word urgessus, which means bear, was initiated with the Roman verb urgere. The word ursus [rgessus], which means the one that urges above, is the Roman origin of the name given to the animal that, when walking upright sustained on both of its feet, spontaneously makes an intimidating imposition of its right hand (or right pawn).
In the original Hebrew name of the Word that became flesh [Jehav-shua] abides the Tetragram of the name Jehaveh [YHWH/JHVH], and for that, the name of the Lamb was omitted by the High Priest who would in no way pronounce the name when referring to a condemned one. The letters of the Tetragram could not be brought up once again by having the name Jehav-shua written on the plaque of whom was said to be an accursed one.
According to the High Priest, who would have to minister and apply the Law once given to the children of Ishrael, the blasphemy of one taking the eternal name in vain would remain when writing the Kadhish [Holiness] of the Tetragram on the plaque of one who was deemed to be an accursed one. The Law of the Sanhedrin indicted the Lamb and the death penalty was based in His pronunciation of the name that remains eternally, while saying I AM [YHWH/JHVH], referring to the Spirit within the flesh [the living Word that became flesh] as the Kodhesh [Holy One] of Ishrael.
While writing the word(s) I.e.sus, Pilate did not lie nor write a name, not even a false name to the Lamb, because his wife sent to him saying: Have thou nothing to do with that just man; for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him. - The origin of the word(s) I.e.sus on the plaque that Pilate wrote is founded in words that are true and legitimate: Id Est Suspended. The word(s) I.e.sus did not have an origin as a name whether in the Roman or Greek language.
quote:
..greek translation of the Hebrew name...
  —imageinvisible
Did the apostles call the Word become flesh by a Hebrew name which means I AM IS THE SALVATION (because the One that sent the Lamb saves His people from their sins),
or did they call the LAMB by the word jesus which is the modern version for the old version IESVS that belongs to the spiritual ministry of the Roman church?
1st. - the word 'jesus' isn't the Hebrew name that was pronounced by the apostles.
2nd. - the word 'jesus' isn't a translation of the Hebrew name that was pronounced by the apostles. It isn't even a translation of what it could supposedly mean in Hebrew.
3rd. - the word jesus is a modern version from the ancient form Iesus Kristus.
4th. - the word Iesus isn't from the Greek, because it is the same word that had been consecrated by the eight nation --The State of Vatican, because the word Iesu/Iesus had always been an essential part in the foundation of the Catholicism and of the Roman church from the beginning of the centuries.
5th. - Iesu/Iesus stands for a man's name that has been viewed in the place of YHWH's name.
6th. - there are three sequential sixes in the words IESVS KRISTVS, and tree sixes more from the Hebrew numeric value of the letters SVS which means horse in Hebrew?
7th. - All the encyclopaedias and biblical dictionaries have been attesting the same real fact: That the Word become flesh and Joshua had the same Hebrew name,
and why the scribes and priests of the doctrines of faiths of the earth could not restore the transliteration that gives priority not to the Greek letters but to the actual pronunciation [audible and speakable] of the Hebrew name??
I. because of laziness, inactivity.
II. because they want to keep on paying reverence (spiritually bowing) before the doctrinal image that imposed the same written form jesus upon the nations, as if the transliteration itself or an imposed version was the unchangeable eternal Hebrew.
The name or the number identifies to which spiritual ministry does it originally and spiritually belong to. If not to the Lamb, to the scarlet beast (obscure doctrine) upon which sits the holy Mother city.
III. because of the three reasons for substitution that are listed in the beginning of this post.
quote:
that is done in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
  —imageinvisible
Vattesimu(battésimu) or Roman Vaticyniu(vaticination)
are rituals originally created and consecrated in the name/authority of the Roman church. There is no mention of the word baptismu in the Law of the Testimony.
Every ritual of vattesimu (or doctrinal image of baptismu) had been originally done in the name of the Roman cross,
because according to the Law of the Testimony and of the Prophets,
the pronunciation or calling upon of the name that remains eternally could only have been done if in fact the name of the Most High or of the Word that became flesh was mentioned and not omitted.
It is attested in the books of the ancients:
I AM THAT I AM
I AM the same
I AM the First - The Begetter
I AM also the Last - The Begotten
quote:
is done in the name of the Father, of the Son...
  —imageinvisible
There never was the eternal name being called upon or mentioned
unless by the name of the Word that was in the beginning,
the original Hebrew name that translates 'I AM IS THE SALVATION'.
About the segnale --scar-- of the nominis of the beast,
In the time that the stigmata ”scar is made, --on the forehead, using the right hand--,
a ”name is pronounced
and that name is the ”beast's.
And the words of the beast's nominis are: in [the place of] the name of the father, and of the son and of the Holy Spirit,
and the words of the ministry and ordination of the beast's ”stigmata scar are: 'I receive this ”stigmata of roman cross --on my forehead, using the right hand-- in the place of the name [I AM--YHWH] of the begetter and in the place of the name [I AM--YHWH] of the begotten and in the place of the Spirit of --Kadhish-- Holiness.'
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Message 25 of 26 (443699)
12-26-2007 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by imageinvisible
12-19-2007 9:11 PM


The Hebrew Sign of the Seven Vs. the sign of the Roman stigmata
quote:
What sign did they make when they spread the blood of the lamb over the door post and lintels?
  —image invisible
1st. The seven. Except in the movies that have been made by the ones who receive the sign of the Roman ”cicatrix on their foreheads.
2nd. The sign of the seven, like the sign of the Seven Star or like a Paleo Hebrew seven which is my Avatar: the attraction and immediate impact between the two vertical poles represents the gathering and maximum approach of both hands when one makes the Sign of the lamb.
This Ancient Hebrew Seven, which is my Avatar, is like a reversed 7, where the first pole, or short one, became the last, and the last became the first.
Seven is the sign-number of Eli-YooN (Most High).
The Eternal's Seven is represented by The Seventh Times; Seventh Day; Seven Days Celebration; Seven Weeks, Seventh Month, Seventh Year...
The Hebrew sign of the Seven that is made with the blood of the lamb over the door post and lintels; and the Great Shalem-Beth (Complete Rest) of the Hebrews do represent the Passover of the Hebrews.
The celebration of the Passover is the Great Sabbath of the Hebrews
The Great Shal-beth (Shabbath) referred to was the great Sabbath of the Passover.
This High Shal-beth --complete rest-- came only once a year, and always came on the fourteenth day of Nisan....
quote:
In the time that there is no omission of the green wood,
these words are listened to,
For if in the green wood they do these things, what shall be done in the dry?
There is a completeness in which the green wood is not omitted.
because parable is when something is taken from the literal
in order to illustrate what is going on with regard to the spiritual.
It is attested by eternal words that a literal green wood, from a green tree, was present there,
because of the evidence that it wouldn't make sense to utilize the term 'green wood' as a parable --i.e. something taken from the literal in order to illustrate the spiritual--,
if in fact, in the moment that parable was pronounced,
the literal wood was a dry one.
quote:
No disposable Roman crosses
In the Scriptures as originally written there is no mention of the two robbers carrying their crosses, because the Roman Empire did not have the habit of making disposable crosses.
Whether the dry wood Roman crosses or their dry wood vertical pole,
for the two robbers, were already waiting for them.
And because of the absence of disposable Roman crosses there, the sequential rows of dozens of Roman crosses available that remained upon the hills of Jerrutzshalem and Judah, as a symbol of the Roman empire occupancy,
now it is clear that all those crosses were now dry wood.
Not heavy nor green but simply dry wood Roman crosses
of which the High Priest did not ask Pilate to include,
because a different Law required a distinct and immediate wood
especially if it is the Law of the Testimony that requires complete Kadhish--Holiness.
Whether disposable or fixed, the dry wood Roman cross that Pilate offered for free in one of his propositions, all in all it was just another of his intents in order to persuade the cheaf priests to abandon their request, saying:
'I authorize you to take him yourselves [with your own hands] and nail him to a cross',
but in return the message Pilate heard echoed around: 'not interested.'
We have a Law and he shall die according to our law,
because he make himself the Kodhesh--Holy One-- of Israel.
--book of John paraphrased--.
quote:
Pilate and the LAMB
- Are you the king of Israel?
- ”King’ as you use the word, or as it is said in Israel?
- Am I an Israeli? For what reason do the chief priests come to ask me to help them kill one of their own people? What have you done?
- My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, the Israelis would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the Roman soldiers: but now my kingdom is not from here.
- Are you a king then?
- You say that I’m a king. I have been born to be ANOINTED of the Truth, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify on behalf of the Truth. Everyone who is of the Truth listens to my voice.
- What Truth?
bestiae obscurae impositione - ...would fight that I wouldn’t be delivered to the Israelis.
Pilate and the High Priest
- I find no basis for a charge against him. But you have a custom, that I should release someone to you at the Passover. Therefore do you want me to release to you the king of Israel?
- Not this man, but Barabbas!
- Behold, I bring him out to you, that you may know that I find no basis for a charge against him. Behold, the man!
- Suspend him on a tree! Suspend him on a tree!
- Do you want me to suspend the king of Israel? I do authorize you to take him and nail him to a cross yourselves [with your own hands], for I find no basis for a charge against him.
- We have a Law and he ought die by our Law, because he made himself the Kodhesh--Holy One of Israel.
bestiae obscurae impositione - Crucify him, crucify him!.
Eclipsed - If the Israelis actually shouted the words crucify him, rather than suspend him to a tree, then Pilate’s response saying ”Take him yourselves and crucify him’ would have pleased them. Pilate’s answer not only made them angry but also caused the High Priest to bring up the Law.
bestiae obscurae impositione - We have a law, and according to our law he ought to die, ...
Eclipsed - If it was just a question of having the lamb dead no matter how it was done, then the High Priest would not have brought up the Law in opposition to the form of death that Pilate had proposed.
The statement 'take him yourselves and crucify him' gives the understanding that Pilate proposed the cross in order to force them to give in. For no man would ever say 'I find no basis for a charge against him' and then do the complete opposite by proposing death against the same one who he considers innocent. Their rejection to the words 'take him yourselves and crucify him' makes it clear, once and for all, that crucifixion is not part of the Hebrew Law. If the High Priest was looking for the LAMB to die on a Roman cross, then Pilate's words would have fulfilled the will of the Sanhedrin and no demand from the Law would have been brought up.
We have a Law and he ought die by our Law, because he made himself the Kodhesh--Holy One of Israel’. - In the immediate moment that Pilate heard the High Priest’s statement about the Law he feared even more.
- Where are you from? - Are you not speaking to me? - Don’t you know that I have power to kill you and power to force them to release you?
- You have no power at all against me, unless it had been given you from above, and the power that you have is reserved to the will of the ones that seek my death, for their sins are greater than yours.
Pilate would get involved by either releasing the LAMB or not commanding the centurion to suspend the Sanhedrin’s prisoner to a green wood.
In both cases he would have acted against the High Priest and would end up doing the opposite of what his wife sent to him, saying: 'Have thou nothing to do with that just man'.
Pilate did not get involved because he did what the High Priest asked him to: He ordered the centurion to do the will of the High Priest. -- ”I wash my hands from this. I'm innocent of the blood of this just man. You see to it'.
According to the doctrines of the faiths--beliefs of the earth, the Tabernacle of His body would have been supposedly nailed to a Roman cross, or condemned by the Roman laws,
The point of view of the doctrines of faiths has remained the same: 'the High Priest simply said that the Law demanded the death penalty’; ”he just wanted the LAMB dead and didn't care how’; 'the High Priest would have been satisfied with Pilate’s proposition as soon as he heard the words: go ahead, take him and nail him to a cross yourselves', which means 'do to him the same that I usually do to the enemies of Rome'.
According to those inclined basis of the doctrines of faiths firm in the sand of a catholic mastercopy of scripture, the High Priest only shared his thoughts about the Law that was given to the children of Ishrael, and it was just an afterthought: ...by the way, we have a Law and it says that he must die by the Law, but it really doesn't matter how it is done;
Just thought you'd like to know that Pilate’.
For the nature of the wide door of beliefs, faiths and abominations is, and will always be, to give credit that the ends do justify the means, and to give credit that an Israeli High Priest would act like them.
quote:
After talking to the LAMB and finding no fault in him, Pilate then says to the High Priest ”I find no fault in him. Take him yourselves and crucify him’. From what has been said through the wide doors, wasn’t that what the High Priest was asking for? If it was, then why to bring up the words ”he ought to die by our Law?’. The ones of the wide door, who feed on the belief/faith in the obscured versions usually state that ”the Romans would not change their normal method of execution just because the Hebrew authorities asked them to', but such a statement makes it sound like Pilate did not do the will of the Hebrew authorities, while Scripture clearly states otherwise. Pilate had the power to force them to release their prisoner, which means that it has never been a question of asking Pilate to change the Roman method of execution. It was a question of asking him to order the roman soldiers to do what the Hebrew authorities have been impeded to do themselves: to suspend an accursed one of the Sanhedrin to a tree or wood.
The Sign of the Lamb is the maximum gathering approach between both hands.
he that gathers not with me, scatters
The term lamb of Eli-YooN (Eli-JeooN; Most High) also implies the manner that Jehaveh-shua was suspended, like a lamb, both hands gathered and tied with ropes, above the head, to a Hebrew green tree, as it is said: and Aaron and his sons shall put the hands of the lamb upon the head of the lamb.
According to the Law as originally written, the hands --or hoofs-- of the lamb, ram, or heifer were actually gathered and tied together above its head to a tree or pole before it can be slaughtered.
The offerings of lamb, ram or heifer required total Kadhish--Holiness to I AM--Jehaveh, and they could not be offered without a holy--separate way, that is the placing and tying of the hands of the lamb above the head of the lamb. The Sign of the lamb is the exact opposite of the sign of the beast.
The sign of the Roman cicatrix ”stigmata is the maximum distance between both hands
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The doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea was raised from the heart of men like what comes up out of a firm land; - I saw another beast coming up out of the land.
And having two teachings similar to the instruction of the LAMB, the doctrine of Laodicea intends to 1st.sanctify the seventh day while it teaches the 2nd.abstinence from the unclean animals and fish; - and it had two horns similar to a lamb.
But the manner through which the doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea spiritually imposes its teachings is that of spiritual intimidation as if the loss of salvation or fear of death was the reason why one must remain doing the eternal instructions, rather than for loving the Eternal and Celestial above all things, spontaneously and for love only; - and spoke like the dragon.
The second greatest doctrine [7th day Laodicean] exercises all the power of the first doctrine [first ecclesiastic power], but the second one only has such a power in the time that it is standing to face it in its presence. If the ”pope had sanctified the Sabbath instead of the Sunday, then the second one would be diminished, without enough power to face while standing [protesting] in the presence of the first one. - and it exercises all the power of the first beast in its presence.
The doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea makes the protestants plus the rest of the world fit into the adoration to the first beast [or; in the worshipping of the day that the first doctrine has sanctified], by stating that those who do not sanctify the Sabbath day do automatically fit into the worship to the day that was sanctified by the first doctrine. - and it makes the earth and those dwelling in it, to adore the first beast, whose wound to death by the sword was ”cicatrized.
There was given to the beast a mouth [radio, microphone and speaker] to speak blasphemies and great things. - And it was given to give spirit [electric current] to an image [e.g. television] for the beast, so that both the mouth and image that was given to the beast may speak, and cause all who do not respect the image of the beast that they may *die [spiritually]. - One disrespects the spiritual image of the beast [spiritually imposed doctrine] whenever he/she presses the remote control to change the channel and, in doing so, gets rid of either the catholic masses or adventist sermons. - * Blessed are the ones who are spiritually dead, who die in the Lamb.
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update
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