In addition, one of your explanations is actually at odds with the bible,
This is the problem. To defend the stance, one must then go on to discuss the Bible on a science thread. Sorry, but there's no use continuing the discussion with you for that reason, imo.
My experiece, and I am learning, is that when evos resort to attacking the Bible when discussing a scientific fact, that there are stuck in a paradigm which is so strong they don't seem capable of hearing what you have to say. For them, it's more of a religious argument than a factual one, and so speaking of facts with them doesn't do much more than enrage them to attack the Bible or to attack my character, etc,...even more.
You showed and still show that this is where you are going with the debate, and therefore it's not worth discussing the issue with you, imo.
If you want a real discussion, you will change your tone, take out the misconceptions that attacking the Bible is relevant, and even misconceptions about what I believe, and stick to the facts.
This message has been edited by randman, 11-18-2005 07:23 PM