YEC approaches to empirical investigation

I've argued for them a lot, so you are as usual wrong. The point that everyone keeps missing is that SCIENCE is pitted against CREATION at this site, SCIENCE calls the shots, it is the assumptions of current SCIENCE that are taken for granted, and I am simply coming along and saying, no, sorry, the WORD OF GOD TRUMPS SCIENCE. The evolutionist premise makes this an either/or and assert always that the presuppositions of science are valid, and I'm answering, uh uh, the presupposition of God's word ought to be given the preeminence that you all give to your idea that science is god.

I've defended it many times before. In the present context I am asserting it as a presupposition and logically it follows that IF God has spoken your obligation is to listen and obey. Nobody in their right mind can disagree with that.This message has been edited by Faith, 11-21-2005 01:18 PM

Because I'm not passionate about anything I myself think or believe, but about what God Himself said. I'm sorry Phat but you are wrong. It's not that He has LIMITED Himself to the Book, as He most certainly has spoken in His creation as well, but His creation will not and does not contradict His spoken word, but you suggest He is contradicting Himself if you deny what His written word says on the basis of some other idea you think you detect from His universe. God is indeed vast, the God who made the universe and who wrote this Book for our edification. You cannot pit the one against the other but that is what you are doing. Without the Book you will never understand His nature, and He didn't just flap His gums to have people come along and tell Him He didn't say what He said. It's in black and white.

Sorry but of course it's the other way around. The disciplines contradict God. He'll make it clear to you some day. Sure, Brian, you are quite free to believe that.

Silly silly silly. You just insist on your own presuppositions here as usual.You may regard it as "only a book," sure, but it is in fact God's own revelation to humanity you are dismissing so lightly.Science is the truth about the physical world. God made the physical world. God wrote the Bible. TRUE science most certainly is compatible with the Bible.P.S. All the higher criticism is is man profaning God's word.This message has been edited by Faith, 11-21-2005 01:31 PM

No, it's not the same as what you said as you put the disciplines above God for authority and credibility.

This is the very delusion I am trying to illuminate. The premise that science has the right to judge the Bible is indeed THE unchallengeable premise of EvC.This message has been edited by Faith, 11-21-2005 01:45 PM