YEC vs. EVO presuppositions / methodology

Faith writes me:

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You are again merely asserting your presupposition against mine.

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No, I'm simply trying to point out the difference. We were talking about what loosely qualifies as 'debate' here on evc. You want your conception of god and his word to be accepted prima facie. Trouble is that once that's done any debate is obviated.A debate does not require that either side accept any premise prima facie. The whole point of a debate is to test ideas, and the supernatural is simply not testable. Thus our positions are irreconcilable and a true debate can't take place.

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"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you."-George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss.,
Sept. 20, 2005.

No, Faith, science requires no presuppositions. It requires positions, positions which can be tested. That is all. If a concept, assertion, hypothosis or theory is testable, it is science. If not, it is something else.Can you propose a way in which the assertion that god wrote the bible can be tested? If you can, then you can turn science on its ear. If you can't, then let's let science be science and let philosophy be philosophy.There's nothing wrong with a philosophical discussion, be it concerning religion, art or anything else that isn't scientifically testable. The problem starts when you attempt to force science to take philosophy into account. It can't, or it ceases to be science.

No, rand, you're wrong. Science does not presuppose anything. Everything is testable.What part of theory of gravity is not testable?

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"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you."-George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss.,
Sept. 20, 2005.

Oh hell no it's not off-topic. This is directly related to the topic. Theory of gravity is only being used as a example to illustrate a point that is essential to the topic. Nothing off-topic about it.

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"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you."-George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss.,
Sept. 20, 2005.