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YEC vs. EVO presuppositions / methodology

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arachnophilia
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Message 65 of 300 (262232)
11-22-2005 12:04 AM 		Reply to: Message 64 by jar
11-21-2005 11:41 PM

aces, dueces, one-eyed faces, suicidal kings, and jokers
jo nar, i told you before in the chat. you're not listening.
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god trumps science.
god trumps reason.
god trumps logic.
god trumps evidence.
god trumps accuracy.
god trumps truth.
god trumps everything.
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don't you see? faith doesn't HAVE to entertain your premises, because she's already got a hand full of winning cards.
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Message 67 of 300 (262236)
11-22-2005 12:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 66 by randman
11-22-2005 12:08 AM

Re: So convince us
ar, what's the purpose of the thread? To defend the claim the Bible is true, or discuss the underlying beliefs that make up the evo/creo debate?
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correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it the underlying belief of creationism that the bible is true? so, wouldn't discussing that be discussing the underlying belief of creationism?
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11-22-2005 12:22 AM 		Reply to: Message 68 by randman
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Re: So convince us
i think jar was asking faith to provide some reason for her methodology and philosophy -- a good explanation of why "god trumps science" or perhaps some examples.
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maybe asking her to justify her permise is a little out of line, sure, but when her premise is "ignore the other premise, but you have to accept mine" perhaps asking for some kind of reason why people should serves as more of a rhetorical device than anything else. ie:
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"why should i? why is your premise any different than mine?"
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11-22-2005 1:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
11-22-2005 7:49 AM

Re: So convince us
All this thread is aimed at is DEFINING the premises, not ARGUING for or against them.
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fair enough.
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I don't know how ID would define its premises for instance. Would they say they follow the word of God but merely interpret it differently from YECs or what?
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i doubt it.
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11-23-2005 9:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 167 by Philip
11-23-2005 8:59 PM

godwin's law
that the evo-paradigm may do a 'Hitler', and kill itself one day (without any YEC help).
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Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
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As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
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Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
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Godwin's law - Wikipedia
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11-23-2005 9:55 PM 		Reply to: Message 169 by Nuggin
11-23-2005 9:48 PM

Re: godwin's law
shh, i'm waiting to use one of the corollaries...
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