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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 91 of 136 (263709)
11-28-2005 9:01 AM
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11-28-2005 8:36 AM


Re: ADHD
there is some amount of trust in the subject you look at. but i suppose that is what i meant little miss scientific method.
my two eyes seem to see much better than most other people's.

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Message 92 of 136 (263710)
11-28-2005 9:05 AM
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11-28-2005 8:57 AM


Re: Insurance
oh right, sorry, you don't listen to anybody unless they have documented proof of knowledge. alright, let's see yours. what is it you do that makes you worthy of being listened to?

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 93 of 136 (263711)
11-28-2005 9:07 AM
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11-28-2005 8:55 AM


Re: ADHD
i don't forget anything, ever. and i don't pepper my memory with my opinions. if my view of the world was what i wanted it to be, it'd be a lot rosier. i accept that and simply record.
but then you won't believe that. ask your precious hubby about nld and memory.

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Message 94 of 136 (263712)
11-28-2005 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by macaroniandcheese
11-28-2005 8:59 AM


Re: I found this, though
quote:
i don't care about the history of alcohol,
That much is clear.
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i just care that you seem to think that anyone who drinks more than some preposterous amount -that you have decided upon but won't share- is a damn drunk and a terrible person because of it.
Not true at all. Where have I ever said this?
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but i also have the opinion that you are a very judgemental person who draws conclusions then scurries around to defend them taking great comfort when something ridiculous backs you up.
Perhaps your opinion is true, perhaps not.
You appear to me as a person who often makes factual claims without being able to back them up at all, often avoids answering direct questions or addressing facts, ignores evidence, values her own personal opinion about everything over science and any expert, and is generally a rather imprecise, sloppy thinker and debater who, when backed into corners, frequently loses her temper and resorts to throwing tantrums and insults.
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now, you've been jumping down my throat
I have? Gee, I thought I was just engaging in debate. You know, providing evidence for claims, asking you to do the same, etc.
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for two days about shit that doesn't matter and isn't even on topic.
Yeah, I'm out here tangoing all by myself, forcing you to paricipate. You haven't been a completely equal dance partner at all, it's true.
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i make one side comment and you go nuts about it.
I haven't gone nuts. I called you on your facts and asked you to back them up. Why is that wrong? You're the one throwing insults and getting upset.
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get over it. you're a pain.
Yes, I expect I am a pain to you.
Don't care.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 95 of 136 (263716)
11-28-2005 9:27 AM
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11-28-2005 9:15 AM


Re: I found this, though
that's nice.
nothing you read on the internet is true, real, or has any basis in fact. and you take this e-debate thing way too seriously.
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Message 96 of 136 (263718)
11-28-2005 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by macaroniandcheese
11-28-2005 9:07 AM


Re: ADHD
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i don't forget anything, ever.
Everyone forgets things, all the time, period.
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and i don't pepper my memory with my opinions.
Everyone peppers their memories with opinions, all the time, period.
The very nature of memory is that it is a reconstruction, an approximation, of the event. You cannot help but do so imperfectly, and your subjective perceptions, your "opinions", are part of what help you retain memories.
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but then you won't believe that.
Hey, you might be right. Let's test you.
What did you have for lunch on April 19th when you were 6 years old?
What were you wearing?
quote:
ask your precious hubby about nld and memory.
OK, I will.
*waiting...*
Right. My precious hubby, the professional scientist with the PhD in Cognitive Psychology, tells me that people with nld have a very poor memory for non-verbal information, although they may have anywhere from good to superb memory for verbal information.
IOW, people with nld are very good at rote memorisation; they can memorize lists of things that people tell them with ease. However, their memory for everything else is worse than people without this disorder.
So, how does this help your argument?
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nator
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Message 97 of 136 (263720)
11-28-2005 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by macaroniandcheese
11-28-2005 9:27 AM


Re: I found this, though
quote:
nothing you read on the internet is true, real, or has any basis in fact. and you take this e-debate thing way too seriously.
Oh, I get it now.
I'm wrong for debating well, and the only factual information is what brennakimi says is true, especially her own personal opinions.
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

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Message 98 of 136 (263730)
11-28-2005 10:11 AM
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11-28-2005 9:42 AM


Re: I found this, though
that's nice.
i've never taken you seriously. mostly cause you're just a figment of internet imagination... just like me.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 99 of 136 (263734)
11-28-2005 10:25 AM
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11-28-2005 9:32 AM


Re: ADHD
well that's funny then cause it seems to me that everything around me falls into my scale of rote. must be some other explanation.
and you still haven't told me your qualifications... unless you're simply a voice for hubby...

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Message 100 of 136 (263739)
11-28-2005 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by nator
11-28-2005 9:32 AM


Re: ADHD
Hey, while you're at it, ask him about "persecution complexes". Brenn might find that information useful, as well

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Message 101 of 136 (263741)
11-28-2005 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by nator
11-28-2005 8:42 AM


Re: Insurance
Hey, do your rates go up if the accident was not your fault at all?
Like, if you were driving along and someone pulls out of a driveway and hits you broadside?
Your rates go up if your insurance pays money out for any damages and cannot recover them. If an incident was not your fault, ideally your insurance company will be able to recover the costs, but this is not always the case.
The best advice is to try and claim from the third party's (the person at fault) insurance company first, if you have time. That way your own insurance company should hopefully not pay any money out. You can also reimburse your own insurance company if it turns out cheaper to do that than shoulder the premium rise.

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Message 102 of 136 (263746)
11-28-2005 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Modulous
11-28-2005 10:55 AM


Ah, insurance
Ah, insurance.
Several years ago I was involved in three accidents in rapid succession. Two of them were serious, and I was not a fault. The third was trivial--my foot slipped on the clutch at a stop, and I broke someone's turn light--no other damage (since the collision occurred at less than walking speed). I was seriously injured in one of the accidents that was not my fault, but fortunately was not injured in the other.
Nonetheless, my insurance co. cancelled my policy because I was involved in three accidents within a six month period. The opportunists whose turn light I broke found a quack chiropractor to support their specious claim of severe back sprains to four people, and filed a nuisance suit against me, even though their vehicle was unregistered and uninsured, and two of the supposed victims (children) ran about and played at the scene of the accident. I begged the police officer to document this in his report, and he refused, saying it was not relevant to his duties. My former insurer found it expedient to pay them off rather than contest an obviously fraudulent claim.
Ironically, my own significant spine injuries led the opposing insurance co. to claim that their insured had experienced a "medical emergency" (she claimed to have passed out a split second before striking the rear of my car at 45-50 mph) which was the proximate cause of the incident, and more than three years, two surgeries, considerable pain and diminution of my phsyical capacity, and many bouts of physical therapy later, we are preparing to go to court.
Now my insurance is horrendously expensive, although all I did was break a plastic light cover, since I have both a settled peronsal injury claim and an insurance cancellation "for cause" on my record.
In fact, it is so expensive that any settlement I gain from the court case will likely be eaten up by the time those increased insurance costs return to my prior, many-years-accident-free rates.
Ah, insurance.

Real science did not really get going until Christians began applying the inference of a lawful universe made by a rational God to the study of the physical creation. --Faith

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nator
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Message 103 of 136 (263793)
11-28-2005 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by macaroniandcheese
11-28-2005 10:11 AM


Re: I found this, though
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i've never taken you seriously. mostly cause you're just a figment of internet imagination... just like me.
Huh, well then that's me confused then.
You sure seem to moan and whine a great deal about how I pick on you or won't leave you alone or whatever.
Surely, if you didn't take me seriously, you wouldn't care at all about what I wrote to you.
You say one thing, but your actions sure do say another.

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Message 104 of 136 (263799)
11-28-2005 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by macaroniandcheese
11-28-2005 10:25 AM


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well that's funny then cause it seems to me that everything around me falls into my scale of rote.
So you keep claiming, but so far you haven't answered the question I chose to test your claim.
What did you have for lunch on april 19th when you were six years old?
What were you wearing?
quote:
must be some other explanation.
You haven't yet demonstrated your 100% perfect memory to me. All you have done is claim that you have it.
I can claim to be a math genious, but nobody should believe me unless I demonstrate it, should they?
quote:
and you still haven't told me your qualifications... unless you're simply a voice for hubby...
My qualifications?
Why are they relevant? It should only matter that I present cogent arguments that are logically sound and any factual claims I make are backed up with reliable evidence.Don't think I haven't noticed that you continue to ignore the substantive content of my posts and instead engage in your usual childish behavior.
When you are ready to grow up and discuss things like a grown up, let me know.
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Message 105 of 136 (263801)
11-28-2005 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by crashfrog
11-28-2005 10:50 AM


Re: ADHD
quote:
Hey, while you're at it, ask him about "persecution complexes". Brenn might find that information useful, as well
rotfl!
Yeah, and "teenaged angst".

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