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RAZD
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Message 16 of 21 (263887)
11-28-2005 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Omnivorous
11-28-2005 4:08 PM


Re: Global Warming/Cooling Cycles
Of particular interest to me is Figure 1 in the PDF (which I regret I cannot reproduce here) which purports to show temperature variation from about 900 AD to 1950. This figure, then, shows the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age, but lops off the most recent 50 years or so of rising temperatures; still, the last 50 years in the figure show a slope steeper than any segment of the Medieval Warm Period, suggesting at least one good reason for not including the past half century.
It's worse than that -- looks like they had to throw in the "+/- 500 yr" to explain why it jumps up and takes off in the 1800's when it should be at the bottom of the cycle.

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joshua221 
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Message 17 of 21 (263919)
11-28-2005 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
11-27-2005 3:29 PM


BORING.

Looked for something I couldn't find, something buried deep in my soul, Yeah I wasn't living right, you told me so.

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Omnivorous
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Message 18 of 21 (263927)
11-28-2005 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by joshua221
11-28-2005 7:59 PM


I wouldn't say that,
prophex--you're not that tedious: "BORING" is being so unfair to yourself; a bit jejune, perhaps, but that's not necessarily BORING.

Real science did not really get going until Christians began applying the inference of a lawful universe made by a rational God to the study of the physical creation. --Faith

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wiseman45
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Message 19 of 21 (264080)
11-29-2005 10:22 AM


here's an interesting website
There's only one word I can say about this website: "www.creationism.org." Wow. I never knew it was possible to denounce everything in science using the bible and actually believe what you're saying is scientifically correct. These people believe that the Colorado River was not responsible for the grand canyon. Nope, it was the global flood.
Well, just another wooden stake in the vampire that is Young Earth Creationism. As jar put it.

  
joshua221 
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Message 20 of 21 (264596)
11-30-2005 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Omnivorous
11-28-2005 8:22 PM


Re: I wouldn't say that,
Attepted reading the article, almost fell asleep.

Looked for something I couldn't find, something buried deep in my soul, Yeah I wasn't living right, you told me so.

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Omnivorous
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Message 21 of 21 (264701)
12-01-2005 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by joshua221
11-30-2005 9:55 PM


Re: I wouldn't say that,
I know, prophex: sometimes data, even (or especially) subtly biased data, is stultifyingly dull stuff, and the passion must be found in the reader's concern about the data's consequences. Someone pulling a fast one with the facts often tries their sleight of hand while your eyes are glazing over...
It is laborious to work through all that to put your finger on a focal point of misrepresentation, but it's awfully important. That's what I tried to do by referencing Figure 1 in the PDF.
Even if you don't read the entire article, take a look at that figure in light of my remarks and RAZD's: the authors shaved and shaped that graph to suit their policy ends, not the data.
In my message to you above, I wanted to give you a friendly poke in the ribs: joining a discussion with a remark like "BORING" doesn't contribute much.

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