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nwr
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Message 5 of 134 (262754)
11-23-2005 7:35 PM


None of our business
Sexual expression involving consenting people is nobody's business, except for the people involved. The government should keep out of it, the newspapers should keep out of it, the politicians (as in Monica-gate) should keep out of it.
Hmm, the churches should also keep out of it.
Not long ago, someone posted a message in which he expressed guilt at his sin of masturbation. Christians should stop this nonsense. For someone with no other outlet, masturbation should be seen as good. It exercises the organs. Your urologist will probably advise it to better maintain prostate health.

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Message 39 of 134 (263119)
11-25-2005 6:03 PM
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11-25-2005 5:55 PM


Re: None of our business
I am skeptical as to whether there was consent in all of those cases.

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Message 43 of 134 (263126)
11-25-2005 6:21 PM
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11-25-2005 6:17 PM


Re: None of our business
It is outside my experience. Maybe my skepticism is ignorant. Still, for the present I am skeptical.

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Message 102 of 134 (264924)
12-01-2005 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Christian7
12-01-2005 10:21 PM


Re: Who are you?
I am 14, and right now I am a very angry person.
Then you need some anger control.
Some teens start looking at porn.
They get addicted and keep looking at porn.
They want to have sex really badly after while.
They end up raiping someone.
At least, this is what I have heard.
Be careful of hearsay reports.
In most cases, porn does not lead to rape.
There isn't much point in being angry over porn, because there isn't much you can do about it anyway. Your anger is wasted.
I refuse to allow my free will to be suppressed. I want full choice control over my actions. Not 20% control, 100% control.
Start by controlling your anger.
By refusing to participate in such pervesity that porn is, I am actually reinforcing and strengthening my free will.
I doubt that.
In any case, the time you spend reading and posting at evcforum is time that you are not spending on porn.
Keep up a varied and interesting life, and you will be fine. People with interesting activities soon find porn to be boring. People who become addicted are mostly people who would otherwise be bored.
And don't forget to work on that anger.

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Message 111 of 134 (265142)
12-02-2005 8:05 PM
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12-02-2005 7:41 PM


Anger
MY ANGER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You still need some anger management.

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Message 113 of 134 (265145)
12-02-2005 8:21 PM
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12-02-2005 8:16 PM


Re: Anger
So, why do you think I need anger management?
Because you shouldn't be angry.
Sure, anyone can be briefly angry as a response to some provocation. But that should quickly dissipate. You shouldn't be angry enough to be mentioning that in your posts.
To much anger is not good for you.

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Message 127 of 134 (265248)
12-03-2005 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Silent H
12-03-2005 11:44 AM


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Of course children are born because of lust.
So you are not planning on having children?
Come now, holmes. That was unfair.
You ought to have taken Guidosoft to be saying "some children are born because of lust." After all, you were leading him on with your comment about children born as a result of rape.

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Message 130 of 134 (265294)
12-03-2005 3:44 PM
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12-03-2005 3:28 PM


Lust vs. love
You ought to have taken Guidosoft to be saying "some children are born because of lust."
Was he only saying "some"? I hope he meant "most, if not all".
It's hard to say what he meant. He has immature ideas as to what is lust, what is love, what is sex.
It seems to me the only time children are not created from lust is in arranged marriages or truly loveless situations such as in vitro fertilization.
I would not agree with that. Perhaps Guidosoft would. It seems to me that you have a dubious meaning for "lust". According to Wikipedia it is "inappropriate sexual desire."

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nwr
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Message 132 of 134 (265330)
12-03-2005 7:37 PM
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12-03-2005 6:08 PM


Re: Lust vs. love
holmes writes:
1 obsolete a : PLEASURE, DELIGHT b : personal inclination : WISH
2 : usually intense or unbridled sexual desire : LASCIVIOUSNESS
3 a : an intense longing : CRAVING b : ENTHUSIASM, EAGERNESS
I don't have any problem with those definitions. It still seems to me that you are using "lust" too broadly.

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