Sexual expression: your opinion

In my opinion, government and religion should quit worrying so much about sex.However, this will never happen. A major part of religion is about control. The religious leaders are in control of their congregation. If you have control of someone’s sex life, then you have control over them. To ask religions to give up control of peoples sex lives is asking a bureaucracy to give up control. That will never happen.Our sex lives clearly fall in to the morals catagories. Government should not attempt to legislate morality.

Hello Guidosoft,My impression of your posts is not flattering at all and I get tempted to respond in not-so-flattering terms. However, something someone else said (Phat maybe) caused me to re-think. Further, arguing with you will help neither of us.You have some very strong opinions that I (and I believe others) just as strongly disagree with. I wonder and would like to hear how you developed those positions. Are you willing to give us a rough idea of your age. A person's age have a huge impact on how they view topics such as sex. (I passed 50 some time ago)Maybe if you would state you positions and why you hold them and try not to be inflamatory (as though I am one to talk ) we could carry on a nice discussion and see where we get.Do you see that there is any possiblity that, given a heart to heart with someone, you might change any of your opinions on sex, porn, and the lot?If the answer is yes, I would like to talk.
If the answer is no, then I ask: why are you here? Just to tell other poeple how screwed up they are? Are you basically an angry person? (Dont take that as an insult. I am an angry person and am still learning what that means and how to deal with it.)This is about as big an olive branch I can whump up. What say you?

Hello Guidosoft,Well, your response tells me much about you and why you post the way you do.I find it hard to imagine my father at age 14 and as I am over 50, you probably find it just as hard to see me understanding you at age 14. However, I do remember those years well, and I was not fond of them at all. I just may have a much better idea of what you are talking about than you realize.This is getting way off topic. I went to the member profile and sent an email the the address listed with your name. If you would like to carry on a discussion, I would like that. If not, I will not press the issue.But on topic, about sexual expression. While Nixon was president, the government commissioned a large study about poronography. The results were that porn had no ill effect on anyone. This was not what many in government wanted at the time (and still do not) so the report was squashed. I have not been able to find it again, maybe another reader here can search better than I and can help us.Porn is not addictive. I may not be able to convince you, but I urge you to consider that possibility. I have seen a fair amount of porn starting with 8mm film projectors when I was 16. I watch it on ocassion now, but it gets boring quickly.RE: Now, it is my understanding that when these things happen, your free will becomes less and less involved. Your addiction becomes strong.This is true for any addiction. It can even be true for people that close out the world by stuffing their ears with headphones and tuning out everyone else rather than participating with others and being part of society. This is not a porn problem, it is the nature of people.The time is really late so I must call it a night, let this rest for now, and see how you reply.I do want to talk with you.
Bkelly

Hello Guidosoft,
I see you have visited this site and thread but have not responded to my invitation. I have made an assumption and will toss out a possibility.You are quite angry, and very young to be that angry. Something has caused this and there are not a lot of candidates. Your symptoms are not unusual for one who has been mistreated by his parents, guardians, or someone they respect. Let’s assume your parents. Unfortunately, this happens often in every city, in every state, in every country, under every religion. You are not alone.Your behavior does not cause your parents to be angry with you. When you do things they do not like, they have the option of choosing how to respond to you. (Every child does things the parents don’t like. That is part of growing up.) The concept that you made them punish you is false. You behaved in a certain manner; they had many options to choose from; and they chose to behave as they did. They may well not be aware that they had a choice, but they did.You are not at fault for their behavior. You are not responsible for their behavior. But you do need assistance in learning how to deal with their behavior.I am out on a limb here, but if I have hit home, you might have something to gain from talking with me or someone else that may understand your position.I want to hear from you,
Bkelly

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Guido,
You have made quite a few statements that you claim to be absolute fact. You seem to be certain that you know more than almost anyone else in this forum.You are but 14, you have not completed high school much less college, you probably have not held a job, and you have not been married. (I refer to marriage in terms of living with and getting along with another person in a peer to peer equal relationship for extended time. This is often not easy to do.)You have either: 1) not had sex or 2) not had sex near as much as any of the married people that post here. (This is not judgmental, not good or bad, just a point of fact and a comparison of experience)Yet you post as though you have all this information that no one else here might possibly have, and that you are always right. The people visiting this forum and responding to you have (probably) from 10 to 40 years more experience in life than you do. As I read your posts, it occurs to me that you have never imagined that these people might know something you have not had the time to lean.If you continue speaking to people in such an arrogant manner, many will resent your arrogance and you will have a difficult time in life. This is true for both your peers and your elders.(fixed a typo)This message has been edited by bkelly, 12-03-2005 10:33 PM