Why is evolutions primary mechanism mutation ?

You might, Jar, point out to carico that you believe exactly that. You just have a difference of opinion of the way in which God did it.From the outside I see, as you've said before (I think), you believing in a truely powerful God while Carico believes in some little two bit deity who has to stick to lego sets and not deal with really interesting methods.

I thank you for pointing that out. It's often difficult, particularly with a new poster, to remember that they most likely haven't yet had time to discern what the position of other posters really is.Carico, I believe that the vast majority of Christians that also support Evolution and the Theory of Evolution, believe that this wonderful universe and all that's in it, was created by a loving GOD. What we are searching for in this quest is simply How GOD did it.GOD created a Universe that is consistent and reasonable. Part of that wonderful system is the self-sustaining and self-healing system that we call Evolution. If you really believe in GOD and would like to see what I consider pretty strong evidence of his reality, one of the first places to look is Evolution.Consider the system. It's designed to change as conditions change. It constantly creates new opportunities through mutation, so that as conditions change, Natural Selection, life goes on. What more wonderous example could be found. This is not some picayune system that must be constantly tinkered with to keep it running. Instead it is elegant, simple, versatile and self-regulating.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

A typical evo standard answer--invent some reason for all your contradictions. All this is very suspicious--my library says 318, you say 366, and Coragyps comes up with this far-out "150 pages or so." (Note the vagueness of "or so." Leaving yourself some wiggle-room, Coragyps? Huh?).All these contradictions on the part of you evos makes me wonder if this book even exists or not. Is it your THEORY that it exists, or is it a FACT?

On the other hand he may have been thinking of "150 pages or so" but really meaning leaves - each leaf has a page on each side so you'll then be at 300+ pages.And I can't even spell ad hoc

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I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then

Yes, and it is also a killing field, where life forms, in order to survive, must feed on other life forms.

The plot thickens! My copy now has 318 pages with Arabic numeration, and xv pages with Roman! It's grown in size since Mayr died! It's a miracle!!

I'm reading it now, Coragyps. Thanks for the recommendation.It has a lot of big words in it, though.

Could it be---Dare I suggest---It`s mutating.

Naw. That could only lead to a decrease in information.

guess what.This message has been edited by brennakimi, 12-09-2005 01:11 AM

While I've been playing with Randman in our 1 on 1, you've really come out swinging. Welcome to the board Carico.You raise a number of questions in this post, all of which are answered by a basic understanding of evolutionary theory.If you'd like, I'll walk you through the mechanics of it all and answer all these questions.But, if you're simply a strict literalist, please just say so and we'll all move on.

I am hot on the trail of the evilutionist conspiracy: if you interpret 366 pages as the number of days in a leap year, and if you realise that the seasons come full circle in a year, 'circle' suggesting that pi is implicated, "150 pages or so" could mean 151 pages, pointing to May 31 in a leap year. Which leap year? Well, if you take 318 pages and multiply that by (3.9245283 + 2), which is the real value of pi - mathematicians are keeping the truth about pi a secret - plus 2, the number of sides in the evo/creo debate, then you get 1884. Now what happened on May 31, 1884? Do I really need to remind you that on that day John Harvey Kellog patented corn flakes?Now if I could just figure out in what language "corn flakes" means something sinister...This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 09-Dec-2005 10:35 AM

This appears to be a wild goose chase by Parasomnium, a typical tactic.On page 28 of Mayr's book (published in 2001), there is a copy of Haeckel's drawings, with a curious little comment in the caption: "Haekel [sic] had fraudulently substituted dog embryos for the human ones, but they were so similar to humans that these (if available)would have made the same point."

It also a typical tactic to call someone else's argument a "typical tactic". And I can't understand why you think it's a wild goose chase. Everyone knows that there are 366 days in a leap year. And pi does really have something to do with circles. It's all so true. So what's this about a wild goose chase? It's an ad homonym to call Haccle sick. And you misspell his name too. Heck, you can't even spell sick.Anyway, I've looked up Haackle's drawings and they look like corn flakes to me. So you are asking me to believe that humans are corn flakes. That's not only perverse, it's also a contradiction. Am I to suppose your mother is a Rice Krispy?

Off Topic

This is a fun discussion. But it really is off-topic here.I encourage either you or Robin to start a continuation thread. I suggest Coffee House where either of you could open it without assistance.

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