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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I found this link at Yahoo Clubs: Darwin and Jesus Can Get Along:
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/ Within that site is the authors "Essay in Favor of Theistic Evolution"
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html Is much more also - Looks to be a real nice site. Moose ------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I like this site, however, I will raise one point of contention.
Quotes from http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html From "The Possibilities of Genesis" section:
quote: From "Young-Earth Creationists" section:
quote: I repeat:
quote: and:
quote: The author is not conceding that it is also "fallible humans" that produced the physical Bible. How can one be certain that the Bible "cannot be wrong", when "fallible humans" have been involved in it's production? Moose. ------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: TC, this doesn't seem to be at all up to your normal level of eloquence. Is he, perhaps, recognizing the difference of, and separation between science and religion? ------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Part of True Creations response to http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html :
quote: What amounts to being a response from the above cited:
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: There's also a real nice bunch of links there:
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/references.html Da Moose ------------------BS degree, geology, '83 Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The evolution/creation debate has long been polarized as evolution versus fundimentalist creationist anti-evolutionism.
It is often aserted by the evolution side, that many view evolution and Christian religion (and creationism?) to be something that can co-exist. This thread attempts to explore such middle ground. Of course, this still runs against the beliefs of the fundimentalists. I would be interested to hear from the Christian evolutionist side, as to what they find to be a suitable "flavor" of creationism. Moose ------------------BS degree, geology, '83 Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: I guess my intent really is to address this topic to the people of the evolution side. The fundimentalist creationist side is naturally opposed to theistic evolution as it includes a substantial acceptance of evolution. So, evolution side, what do you think of theistic evolution? Moose ------------------BS degree, geology, '83 Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe [This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 01-22-2002]
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Because of happenings in another topic, I sense it's time for a bump for this topic.
Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
It has occured to me, that an individual might be BOTH a theistic and atheistic evolutionist, at the same time.
Ken Miller, author of "Finding Darwin's God", might fall into this area. Might one consider ones self as a "Theistic Evolutionist", in that your faith is that God is indeed behind it all? At the same time, might one consider ones self an "Atheistic Evolutionist", in that 1) Evolutionary considerations are irrelevant to your Christian faith, and 2) Your Christian faith is irrelevant to your considerations of evolution? Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The theme of "theistic evolutionist" has been coming up in other topics, including "What is a Creationist". I thought about starting a "What is a Theistic Evolutionist?" topic, but thought it be better that I give this one a bump.
I'm sure there's a nice, precise definition of "Theistic Evolutionist" somewhere. 1) What I suspect it is, is an evolutionist who believes God had a (substantial?) hand in guiding the paths that evolution has taken. 2) Another definition might be - An evolutionist who believes that God was ultimately behind it all, but did not actively guide the evolutionary pathways. Or somewhere in between these two.
MrHambre points out that Kenneth Miller (of "Finding Darwin's God) does not consider himself to be a theistic evolutionist.
quote: Earlier in that topic, I mistakingly called Miller an "old Earth creationist". I had meant that as in "Ultimately God is behind it all". I had modified my view to the also apparently wrong "Miller is a theistic evolutionist". Moose ps: TrueCreation, currently inactive in this forum, has changed his position considerably from that of early in this topic string. [This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 12-21-2003]
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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This OLD topic seems to have died with some good content at the end.
Moose
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